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Old 11-25-2012   #46
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Ha yea right. Manziel is not a good pro prospect.. he's small, doesn't have very good arm strength, and runs a spread offense. He's like Eric Crouch. Great college player, but will not translate to the NFL. He'll be either a wide receiver or a QB in the Canadian League.
I'll add to my previous post by saying that Manziel is only a freshman.. he's going to play 4 years of college because he's not a good pro prospect. So he wouldn't be here for 4 more years anyways.

I think he'll win 2 Heismans (he's winning it this year) and a National Championship before his college career is over though. He'll be a CFB legend when it's all said and done.
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Yea, his immaturity has been well documented. It's a hard call to make when deciding to invest so much on a player. On one hand, you fear he won't grow out of his poor decision making and have him turn out to be another Ryan Leaf. On the other, you give him a pass for being a 20 year old kid and figure he'll mature into adulthood.

As for his concerns on the field, I think that depends mightily on the coaching he gets.

My biggest concern with this kid is his height. He is listed at 6'6". If you look back at all the qbs 6'6" or taller, there haven't been too many success stories. The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is Joe Flacco.

I love his arm though......
I'm not concerned about his height. I think success depends on the individual's abilities, not how tall he is. With that said, he definitely needs to to bulk up. He only weighs 215 lbs. At 6'6 that is way too small. And i'm sure he will with time. I agree with you on the arm though. He's got a cannon. Depending on where he is projected to go, if he's available in the 2nd or 3rd when we pick then i'd say go for it. I wouldn't trade up to get him though.
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Old 11-25-2012   #48
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I'm not concerned about his height. I think success depends on the individual's abilities, not how tall he is. With that said, he definitely needs to to bulk up. He only weighs 215 lbs. At 6'6 that is way too small. And i'm sure he will with time. I agree with you on the arm though. He's got a cannon. Depending on where he is projected to go, if he's available in the 2nd or 3rd when we pick then i'd say go for it. I wouldn't trade up to get him though.
No doubt he needs to bulk up.

As for the height thing, common sense would say you are right that height shouldn't determine a qb's success on the field (so as long as he isn't too short). But, oddly enough, once a qb reaches the 6'6" mark, there aren't a lot of success stories. Granted players at any position rarely reach that height in the NFL, so you're naturally going to have the percentages skewed a bit....but you'd think that being that tall would be an advantage for a qb.

Maybe it's just a freakish coincidence 'cause there are a number of 6'5" qbs who enjoyed success.
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No love for Teddy Bridgewater?? He would have probably challenged for the #1 pick had he been eligible for this upcoming draft.


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Still think Landry Jones is the man for this team! How can anyone not agree? I see huge pocket passer all over him huge arm. Guy is smart and a damn good player
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Old 11-25-2012   #51
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Kinda random but... Kaepernik has those intangibles that you just can't teach. Alex Smith, say hello to the pine.
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No love for Teddy Bridgewater?? He would have probably challenged for the #1 pick had he been eligible for this upcoming draft.

Bridgewater is a stud. I imagine he'll be the first QB drafted next season when he becomes eligible. He's the only reason Louisville was even relevant this year and made it all the way to their #11 ranking. I doubt the Cowboys will have any shot at getting him barring a major trade which is unlikely. JJ is more likely to draft a QB in a later round and develop him or sign one in FA.
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Newton would get destroyed here. I'd rather have..gulp....Vick than Newton.
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Um no. He's a damned egotistical headcase who only cares about himself.


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Scam is currently the most selfish person in the league right now in my opinion.

Despite the athleticism I really want nothing to do with the guy. I'm enjoying watching him struggle this year.
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Bridgewater is a stud. I imagine he'll be the first QB drafted next season when he becomes eligible. He's the only reason Louisville was even relevant this year and made it all the way to their #11 ranking. I doubt the Cowboys will have any shot at getting him barring a major trade which is unlikely. JJ is more likely to draft a QB in a later round and develop him or sign one in FA.
There is no developing quarterbacks. There's only drafting talent.

And why wouldn't they trade? Especially the way that Jerry was salivating over Griffin Thursday.
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For everyone who thinks we should draft a quarterback in a later round and quote-unquote groom him ..... did you watch the game Thursday? That's what we're going to be dealing with for the next dozen years. Do you really want to face an elite qb with a fourth-round talent?

Besides that, if the Chiefs take Geno or someone else in the first round, then the Cowboys will be the franchise with the longest gap for using a No. 1 on a quarterback, other than the Saints.
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Old 11-26-2012   #58
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Cam looked really good tonight, albeit against the terrible Eagles defense. 18-28 for 289 yards w/ 2 passing TD's and 2 rushing. He's going to bounce back from this slump and in a couple seasons Jerry Jones will make him an offer he can't refuse. (only slightly kidding)
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Romo is going to be around for at least 4 more years folks... So start studying 2015-2016-2017 prospects
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Johnny "Mr Football" Manziel!!!!
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