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Old 11-27-2012   #16
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How many teams in the NFL have cut 4 of their 5 starters on their OL in 2 seasons?

All 5 starters in 3 seasons?
I know that one. One. This one.
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Old 11-27-2012   #17
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If Jerry had came out and said that we are in re-building mode instead of talking about SB windows how would you feel about this season and last season?


Just looking for honest answers.
If he thought that why did he trade for Caliborne like they were one player away.
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How many teams in the NFL have cut 4 of their 5 starters on their OL in 2 seasons?

All 5 starters in 3 seasons?
The funny thing is that at the time, no one took that angle. The party line was that we cut those lazy, sorry, overpaid underachievers on our OL and now we had a bunch of hungry, scrappy, and accountable RKGs.

Only now in hindsight is it an excuse.
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How many teams in the NFL have cut 4 of their 5 starters on their OL in 2 seasons?

All 5 starters in 3 seasons?
And how many teams did that and got worse players than the ones they got rid of.

Great plan!!!
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I no longer care what Jerry Jones says. I have become indifferent to him and the cowboys as well. It's a shame since I have been following them since 1961. It no longer makes any difference to me whether they win or lose or just quit.

Jerry Jones has single-handedly driven me away.

Life is good anyway; there are many other things to care about closer to home. I still haunt this forum occasionally because I enjoy reading the posts of some of the members. An interesting observation about growing older is that I have lost a lot of the testosterone that got me in so many kinds of trouble earlier in life and I don't really miss it very much. Life is as good as you let it be.
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How many teams in the NFL have cut 4 of their 5 starters on their OL in 2 seasons?

All 5 starters in 3 seasons?

And exactly how does releasing OL affect a coach's ability to manage the clock and call timeouts?
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This team will be in position again to fill major holes via FA and draft BPA.
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The funny thing is that at the time, no one took that angle. The party line was that we cut those lazy, sorry, overpaid underachievers on our OL and now we had a bunch of hungry, scrappy, and accountable RKGs.

Only now in hindsight is it an excuse.
Well, the guy they thought was going to be the second coming of Tom Landry is sub 500 as head coach, so they got to start coming up with something.
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I think it is pretty clear we are in year 2 of a 3 year rebuilding program under Garrett. Year 1 was to cut the fat of the team that had a lot of aging players who were progress stoppers. Year 2 was to retool the defense and to a degree I think that has been accomplished. Claiborne will be a stud in this league and Carr is a good #2 CB. Crawford will be a good player for us and Carter and Church were playing very well before injury. I think Year 3 will be a massive rebuild of the offensive line with only Smith and Livings returning as starters.
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I think it is pretty clear we are in year 2 of a 3 year rebuilding program under Garrett. Year 1 was to cut the fat of the team. Year 2 was to retool the defense and to a degree I think that has been accomplished. Claiborne will be a stud in this league and Carr is a good #2 CB. Crawford will be a good player for us and Carter and Church were playing very well before injury. I think Year 3 will be a massive rebuild of the offensive line with only Smith and Livings returning as starters.
Year 2 of rebuilding with a 32 year old QB.

Keep moving the goalposts.
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Year 2 of rebuilding with a 32 year old QB.

Keep moving the goalposts.
Maybe rebuilding was the wrong word. Retooling seems to fit better. I think of it like this; when Denver signed Peyton Manning, they had to rebuild their team. They needed to tweak somethings, including bringing in pass catchers at the TE position, and finding RBs who can pass protect better.

I think Dallas is "retooling" with their 32 year old QB.
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Every team is rebuilding every year. Football teams are fluid not static. Some are more static than other and at key places. WE are rebuilding. So are 31 other teams. It is no excuse for us. The injuries have hurt, but the miscues on the OL hurt more.
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Maybe rebuilding was the wrong word. Retooling seems to fit better. I think of it like this; when Denver signed Peyton Manning, they had to rebuild their team. They needed to tweak somethings, including bringing in pass catchers at the TE position, and finding RBs who can pass protect better.

I think Dallas is "retooling" with their 32 year old QB.
Huh?
RB - They kept McGahee and Moreno and drafted hilman
TE - they signed Dressen and Tamme, harldy Tier 1 prospects
Defense was pretty set.

They added Manning AND BROUGHT IN Stoakley and Tamme since they had been w/ manning in Indy. They are backups.
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If Jerry had came out and said that we are in re-building mode instead of talking about SB windows how would you feel about this season and last season?


Just looking for honest answers.
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If Jerry had came out and said that we are in re-building mode instead of talking about SB windows how would you feel about this season and last season?


Just looking for honest answers.
An honest answer hinges on whether or not the team is showing demonstrable improvement from one season to the next during the rebuilding process.

For instance, Jimmy took over a team in full blown rebuild mode, and saw his team win 6 more games between his first and second seasons. That's demonstrable improvement.
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