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11-28-2012
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by dallasdave
Thanks for the info, hopefully the Cowboys can sign a couple of good free agents in the off season. 
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Right now, I am hoping Jake Long. But I'll take Andy Levitre or Ryan Clady or Andre Smith if he is franchised.
OL, OL, OL.
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Right now, I am hoping Jake Long. But I'll take Andy Levitre or Ryan Clady or Andre Smith if he is franchised.
OL, OL, OL.
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How is Clady after his injury? Didn't he tear his achilles? I know he was really good before that.
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11-28-2012
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by DBOY3141
How is Clady after his injury? Didn't he tear his achilles? I know he was really good before that.
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I actually forgot he got hurt to be quite honest.
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11-28-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Right now, I am hoping Jake Long. But I'll take Andy Levitre or Ryan Clady or Andre Smith if he is franchised.
OL, OL, OL.
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I expect all of the good LTs to get Franchised.
Andre Smith is interesting. He's developed into a good RT. At 6-4, 330+, he looks like he would be a good OG.
Levitre appears to be the only OG worth a significant long term contract.
I'm curious about Moore from the Jets. ESPN had him rated as a better player in 2011 than Levitre. Moore is 32, but he should be an expert in Callahan's scheme.
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11-28-2012
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#20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Right now, I am hoping Jake Long. But I'll take Andy Levitre or Ryan Clady or Andre Smith if he is franchised.
OL, OL, OL.
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I would love to get Jake Long. 
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11-28-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by dallasdave
I'm wondering what we look like for 2013(with all dead money ect). 
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The only dead money we will have in 2013 is Newman's $2M from the June 1st cut.
Free would more than likely be a June 1st cut in 2013 so he'd carry some dead money on 2013 to.
We will be in good position again to address serious holes in FA and approach the draft with BPA again.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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11-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Bluestang
The only dead money we will have in 2013 is Newman's $2M from the June 1st cut.
Free would more than likely be a June 1st cut in 2013 so he'd carry some dead money on 2013 to.
We will be in good position again to address serious holes in FA and approach the draft with BPA again.
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Yes, cut Free 
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11-29-2012
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#23
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Hopefully Steven is constantly reminding Jerruh that the CAP will not be going up much for several years. So we HAVE to keep that in mind.
Las Cruces NM
White Sands NM
Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
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11-29-2012
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#24
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2012 Dead-Money: $29.77M
2012 Penalty: $5M
2013 Dead Money: 2M
2013 Penalty: 5M
Therefore, there is 27.77M less Dead-Money in 2013 than in 2012.
At this time, the actual 2013 projected Salary Cap is meaningless because many contracts will be renegotiated/extended. The important issue is that they will have $27.77M more to work with in 2013.
Cutting Doug Free will add 4.175M in Dead-Money in both 2013 and 2014; however, he counted 5.375M against the 2012 Cap. Cutting him actually results in 1.2M of salary cap relief in 2013 as compared to 2012, but the player is gone.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4467411
See post #79 by AdamJT13 for 2012 Dead-Money
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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11-29-2012
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#25
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Originally Posted by xwalker
2012 Dead-Money: $29.77M
2012 Penalty: $5M
2013 Dead Money: 2M
2013 Penalty: 5M
Therefore, there is 27.77M less Dead-Money in 2013 than in 2012.
At this time, the actual 2013 projected Salary Cap is meaningless because many contracts will be renegotiated/extended. The important issue is that they will have $27.77M more to work with in 2013.
Cutting Doug Free will add 4.175M in Dead-Money in both 2013 and 2014; however, he counted 5.375M against the 2012 Cap. Cutting him actually results in 1.2M of salary cap relief in 2013 as compared to 2012, but the player is gone.
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4467411 [View Full Quote]See post #79 by AdamJT13 for 2012 Dead-Money
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Hey, thanks for the info  Helps to know cutting Free saves money 
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11-29-2012
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#26
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11-29-2012
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Right now, I am hoping Jake Long. But I'll take Andy Levitre or Ryan Clady or Andre Smith if he is franchised.
OL, OL, OL.
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Oh the irony.
Levitre fell right to us late in the 2nd round in 2009 and we traded the pick to Buffalo, who then took him.
Of course we did trade down and get Brewster. sweet.
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11-29-2012
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#28
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Originally Posted by xwalker
I expect all of the good LTs to get Franchised.
Andre Smith is interesting. He's developed into a good RT. At 6-4, 330+, he looks like he would be a good OG.
Levitre appears to be the only OG worth a significant long term contract.
I'm curious about Moore from the Jets. ESPN had him rated as a better player in 2011 than Levitre. Moore is 32, but he should be an expert in Callahan's scheme.
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Don't know a lot about S  mith- anybody else have info on him?
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11-29-2012
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...llff-scandrick
i.e. Doug Free's original signing bonus was for $10.3 million spread over four years, or $2.575m added to each year's base salary. The club reworked his deal to drop his 2012 salary to $1.2 million and turned the remaining $4.8m into another signing bonus. So, although his base salary for 2013 remained at $7 million, his cap hit went from $9.575m ($7m base +2.575m SB) to $11.175m ($7m base +2.575m SB +1.6m SB). The cost to release Free, which the Dallas brass never considered it would have to do, now goes up from $5.15m to $8.35 million.
Now, I'm no capologist, and I hope that I've presented the situation accurately. If not, I apologize for any inconsistencies in the conclusions I'm drawing. If so, I can't help but wonder how in the world Dallas finds itself in this situation yet the Philadelphia Eagles signed any and everyone they could find in 2011 and will be $20 million under the 2013 cap before they release QB Michael Vick from his $100 million contract.
The six-year contract only paid Vick a $7m signing bonus, and with two years completed would now cost them $4.66m to release him. It will cost the Cowboys almost twice as much to release Doug Free as it will for the Eagles to release Mike Vick.
What in the world is our front office doing?
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11-29-2012
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Originally Posted by Mr Cowboy
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...llff-scandrick
i.e. Doug Free's original signing bonus was for $10.3 million spread over four years, or $2.575m added to each year's base salary. The club reworked his deal to drop his 2012 salary to $1.2 million and turned the remaining $4.8m into another signing bonus. So, although his base salary for 2013 remained at $7 million, his cap hit went from $9.575m ($7m base +2.575m SB) to $11.175m ($7m base +2.575m SB +1.6m SB). The cost to release Free, which the Dallas brass never considered it would have to do, now goes up from $5.15m to $8.35 million.
[View Full Quote]Now, I'm no capologist, and I hope that I've presented the situation accurately. If not, I apologize for any inconsistencies in the conclusions I'm drawing. If so, I can't help but wonder how in the world Dallas finds itself in this situation yet the Philadelphia Eagles signed any and everyone they could find in 2011 and will be $20 million under the 2013 cap before they release QB Michael Vick from his $100 million contract.
The six-year contract only paid Vick a $7m signing bonus, and with two years completed would now cost them $4.66m to release him. It will cost the Cowboys almost twice as much to release Doug Free as it will for the Eagles to release Mike Vick.
What in the world is our front office doing?
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They will designate Free a June 1st cut and spread the dead money over 2 years so that will be $4.175M in 2013 and the same in 2014.
Vick was guaranteed $32.5M and the Eagles have only paid him $25.3M, the Eagles aren't going to be walking away from that contract very easily.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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