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11-29-2012
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#16
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Originally Posted by VThokie7
If Ogletree takes his spot back it will be yet another example of Garrett's many failures.
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I believe it will be a Jones call.I think Garrett is smart enough to realize Ogletree is waste of space.
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11-29-2012
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#17
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
When did we bench Dez?
When did we demote Felix? He's been the starter since Murray went down and no one has ever had more carries than him in a game since then.
Face it man.. with all the penalties, sloppy play, etc.. no one is ever taken out of the game, forced to sit a couple series, benched for the rest of the game, etc..
There is no accountability under JG. You screw up, you get an "atta boy" and a slap on the rear.
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Not to mention every time Ogletree runs a route, Tony looks like he wants to punch him in the head.
Yet 10 games into the season he was still our number 3 receiver getting the major majority of the snaps.
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11-29-2012
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#18
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What did he do right in week one that he cant seem to do anymore?
I feel that everyone who wants to say anything, do anything, should be able to say anything or do anything, within the limits of not hurting another person.
-Madalyn Murray O'Hair
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11-29-2012
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#19
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Originally Posted by TTexasTT
What did he do right in week one that he cant seem to do anymore?
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Teams decided they'd give in and actually cover him after week 1.. the Giants just thought they didn't need to waste a man on him.
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11-29-2012
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#20
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
When did we bench Dez?
When did we demote Felix? He's been the starter since Murray went down and no one has ever had more carries than him in a game since then.
Face it man.. with all the penalties, sloppy play, etc.. no one is ever taken out of the game, forced to sit a couple series, benched for the rest of the game, etc..
There is no accountability under JG. You screw up, you get an "atta boy" and a slap on the rear.
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"We did bench Dez for fumbling on kick returns". And we demoted Felix to second string for productivity reasons. Just as I said.
Sorry, but the productivity thing is just another pretend ax to grind, along with the play calling complaints that every offensive coach, ever, has had to live with when his team's not winning as much as expected.
I agree that we should be benching players for series here and there for mistakes, but we're hardly unusual for not doing that. It's a fairly strong statement to take a starter our of a game for a mental mistake.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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11-29-2012
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#21
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Originally Posted by TTexasTT
What did he do right in week one that he cant seem to do anymore?
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He runs the wrong routes. And he drops passes to kill drives.
I'm not a fan of Ogletree's, at all. Harris has been more effective in fewer snaps; at this point, he deserves the start. We'll see what happens.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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11-29-2012
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#22
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If he does it's stupid, Harris should be 3rd Beasley 4th 5th Armstrong
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11-29-2012
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#23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
"We did bench Dez for fumbling on kick returns". And we demoted Felix to second string for productivity reasons. Just as I said.
Sorry, but the productivity thing is just another pretend ax to grind, along with the play calling complaints that every offensive coach, ever, has had to live with when his team's not winning as much as expected.
I agree that we should be benching players for series here and there for mistakes, but we're hardly unusual for not doing that. It's a fairly strong statement to take a starter our of a game for a mental mistake.
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Playcalling is one thing.. agree with that, that it will be questioned as long as we keep losing whether some of it is justified or not.
Like you said in the last paragraph there though.. we haven't made a strong enough statement to the team on the accountability front. Guys seem to comfortable. Play is consistently inconsistent week in and week out.
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11-29-2012
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#24
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If Broaddus is correct, Beasley won't be a factor in this game and Harris will see a lot less playing time to make way for Ogletree.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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11-29-2012
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#25
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Originally Posted by McLovin
Which is why I laugh at "accountability" being instilled.
Do you think the cowboys would ever make a player run stairs like Fisher did Janoris Jenkins
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Rashard Medenhall fumbling twice and getting demoted to 3rd string
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Rookie WR Michael Floyd was benched during loss to the Falcons for lining up wrong.
or mike wallace http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...burgh-steelers
or RT Gabe Carimi http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-chicago-bears
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Reggie Bush
or isaac Redman when they played KC and he fumbled. Cost me a FF game
[View Full Quote]The only "benching" i remember is DEz Bryant and punt returns.But no games or significant playing time.
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Excellent post. There is ZERO accountability here. Ogletree doesn't even deserve another snap in a Cowboys uniform. Get Sensabaugh, Scandrick, Felix, Free, Livings, Spears, Hatcher, etc out of here as well.
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11-29-2012
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
If Broaddus is correct, Beasley won't be a factor in this game and Harris will see a lot less playing time to make way for Ogletree.
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That is REALLY going to piss me off. You have guys that are hungry and way more capable than Ogletree. That guy is nothing more than a joke in a uniform.
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11-29-2012
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#27
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If he does, I'm not going to be happy.
Harris and Beasely deserve a shot. Otree is nothing but unreliable.
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11-29-2012
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#28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ufcrules1
Excellent post. There is ZERO accountability here. Ogletree doesn't even deserve another snap in a Cowboys uniform. Get Sensabaugh, Scandrick, Felix, Free, Livings, Spears, Hatcher, etc out of here as well.
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Hatcher is our best DL'man.
Livings has been our best OL'man.
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11-29-2012
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Hatcher is our best DL'man.
Livings has been our best OL'man.
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yeah i was about to say what is with the livings hate? he actually has been pretty solid for us so far, bern on the other hand...
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11-29-2012
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#30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Hatcher is our best DL'man.
Livings has been our best OL'man.
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I didn't get that, either. Hatcher is also extremely cheap. Would be VERY stupid to cut him.
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