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Old 11-29-2012   #61
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Vickers has been an enormous bust.
Not really. He is a fullback on his 3rd team in 3 years in a passing offense.
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Old 11-29-2012   #62
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Jason Garrett obviously learned more from Wade Phillips than any of us thought.
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Old 11-29-2012   #63
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Is Vickers injured? Why the heck is he practicing then?

Yes, i think players should be allowed to go full contact in practice.

If you don't think they should.. maybe you'd prefer watching Dancing With The Stars?

***** ****** people.. now we're *****ing because guys are going "full contact" in practice? Are you kidding me?
I get that you do need some crazy guys, and especially this team, but you can't go full contact when nobody else is. There's a time and place for everything and this wasn't it. You can't be blowing people up when your teammates aren't expecting it. It's that way even in high school.

As far as Poppinga goes, didn't we choose Guyton over him when we were looking for someone to sign? And we cut Guyton like a day later. So I don't expect much out of this guy. Probably just on special teams where that wild man attitude really works.
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I wish this story read that Vickers got up and drilled Poppinga, but of course that would be considered a physical altercation which is foreign to this team. The makeup of the club is so flippin' soft and emotionless it's sickening.
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Old 11-29-2012   #65
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Is Vickers injured? Why the heck is he practicing then?

Yes, i think players should be allowed to go full contact in practice.

If you don't think they should.. maybe you'd prefer watching Dancing With The Stars?

***** ****** people.. now we're *****ing because guys are going "full contact" in practice? Are you kidding me?
Yes vickers is battling a knee injury. He almost didn't play in the browns game or the skins game. He stepped up because Te team is thin at rb. Tat s why he was out there in a bunch if third downs.

So having a guy off the street hit him when he is not expecting it in practice is more about poppinga being often reservation than who is tough or not.

And for The record, popping a was a guy in 08 when we played at gb who laughed at Marion barber, him and Barnett were joking about him being called the barbarian.

Poppinga spent most of the night on his back and barber had a good game with a bunch of physical runs.

So congrats to us, he is on our roster now.
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Yep this team sure does need a few Haley's around. A crazy MF'er that keeps everyone on edge...we definitely do not have that. On the Jimmy teams we had Haley, Larry Allen, Eric Big E Williams to name a few of the nasties. Players around the league were would crap their pants when they knew they had to face Williams and Allen. With those two it was a WAR.

Michael Irvin was another Crazy F. It is so easy to just keep going down the list, amazing. Name one crazy F on our current team...Maybe Sean Lee.

Oh, Vickers did have that one grab vs the Brown on 3rd down that we absolutely had to have.
Dez is crazy too...well he was until everyone made a big fret about it. now he's mellowed into the country club rkg atmosphere.

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We talkin bout practice? practice? not a game, but practice?

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Can't believe it took 36 posts before we got this gem.

Next thing you know we'll be talking about playoffs.
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Yes vickers is battling a knee injury. He almost didn't play in the browns game or the skins game. He stepped up because Te team is thin at rb. Tat s why he was out there in a bunch if third downs.

So having a guy off the street hit him when he is not expecting it in practice is more about poppinga being often reservation than who is tough or not.

And for The record, popping a was a guy in 08 when we played at gb who laughed at Marion barber, him and Barnett were joking about him being called the barbarian.

Poppinga spent most of the night on his back and barber had a good game with a bunch of physical runs.

So congrats to us, he is on our roster now.
If Vickers is injured.. he shouldn't be practicing.

If he's banged up.. contratulations.. so is everyone else in the league right now. Welcome to football.

Bottom line is, everyone is saying "oh you can't go full speed when no one else is"

..who's to say this is a portion of practice where they weren't going full contact or full speed? No one has that information, so to say guys weren't supposed to be going full ahead is incorrect. Furthermore, they were in pads, they were hitting.. i'd only assume it was supposed to be full contact.

Any way you look at it.. when a guy puts a solid, clean hit on you, especially as a fullback, and you say, "We don't practice that way", and get all upset about it.. it looks pretty bad on you.
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I wish this story read that Vickers got up and drilled Poppinga, but of course that would be considered a physical altercation which is foreign to this team. The makeup of the club is so flippin' soft and emotionless it's sickening.
Probably the worse thing about the team at this time in my mind, its like they are a bunch of tin men with no heart. Noone with any attitude, just a bunch of choir boys and boy scouts who know how to lose gracefully.

Problem is Jerry is really the only person they will listen to when it comes to their jobs, and all he usually does is kiss their hind parts. Its just really a sad situation.
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Can't believe it took 36 posts before we got this gem.

Next thing you know we'll be talking about playoffs.

It is not the waitress's fault!
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Batman better show something sunday, otherwise he is just another moronic mouthpiece.
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Please tell me what rule from the CBA tells us that the Cowboys weren't allowed to practice full speed in pads during that session.

Thanks.
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The league has also placed limits on the number of full-contact padded practices during the regular season. Teams are permitted a total of 14 for the year with 11 of those practices conducted during the first 11 weeks of the season (a maximum of one per week).
Not saying this was necessarily one with limited contact, but that appears to be the case.

Again, as much as I like seeing a guy have "one speed" when it comes to hitting, the NFL simply doesn't condone it anymore on a regular basis.
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Not saying this was necessarily one with limited contact, but that appears to be the case.
They were in pads.. it was a full contact practice. There isn't full contact and limited contact padded practices.

There are practices in pads.. 14 during the season allowed.. and practices with no pads.
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They were in pads.. it was a full contact practice. There isn't full contact and limited contact padded practices.

There are practices in pads.. 14 during the season allowed.. and practices with no pads.
I get what you're saying, but full pads does not mean full contact. That's strictly up to the coaches, who can dial back the amount of hitting based on what they want to get accomplished, injuries, etc.

The OP said the team wasn't practicing full speed. If they are not practicing full speed, then the contact is limited at least at that point in practice.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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Almost made me spit out my coffee! That was funny. Thanks for starting my day off with a good laugh.

"I just always feel that he's going to find a way to win the game…He has evolved into a great, great leader of the team...He is the total package." Roger Staubach about Tony Romo

"They're a talented group with a great quarterback, and they're well on their way." Troy Aikman on the Cowboys and Tony Romo

But what do Roger and Troy know about great quarterbacking, talent, leadership, and winning anyway?
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