Question On Spot Challenges

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by Hostile

The thing that bothers me most about the spot of the ball challenge is that it took like 10 minutes to get the next play off. The fake injury, the challenge, the re-spot, the measurement, clock starts, quarter ends, back to commercial break.

Yeah, the whole sequence took forever.

Just a horrible mess.

[Hoofbite]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Unless they changed the rule, I understood that upon review you can move the spot of the ball and say the ruling was overturned. It is independent of whether after re-spotting the ball if the play results in a first down or not.

I agree, I thought Murray got the first down on the 3rd down run. It was a bad spot and then another poor spot on 4th down.

See, I could have sworn that the ball had to be moved enough to flip turnover on downs or create a turnover on downs.

I just don't know how you move the ball, allow a team to retain their timeout and possibly get the bonus challenge if they were ruled short and then determined to be short but by a lesser degree after replay.

In such a case the only way a team would lose that challenge is if there was no way to see where the spot occurred or the replay clearly shows that the initial spot was 100% accurate. Inches are difference makers so if you're 3 inches short and the ref rules that you should get 2 of those inches back.......what has changed?

I guess what I am saying is, the ball could probably be moved on every single challenge to some small degree one way or the other if it came to it.

If that's the case, the offense essentially risks nothing to challenge which is a crucial component to the challenge.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

Yeah, the whole sequence took forever.

Just a horrible mess.

I could have re-heated some leftovers in the micro, peed, and taken a phone call and not missed any action.

[blindzebra]

The rule is you have to challenge a specific thing. So if you challenge a spot for the line of gain, they must move the ball to/past the line of gain for the call to be reversed.

[links18]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Don't forget Witten having half his body in the endzone and it gets spotted at the half yardline and no booth challenge.

That looked like a TD to me. I have noticed it all season. The Refs are screwing up spotting the ball left, right and center. They also gifted the Eagles a first down later in the game with a terribly favorable spot. Last week, it worked in our favor when they gave Witten a first down he shouldn't have gotten, but they never moved the sticks, resulting in the Romo dive play on what was a first down (which half the board thought was evidence Romo is a moron).

The NFL is just too complicated for many of the senior citizens they have as refs to get it right. I have seen multiple times this season where FOX has brought in Perieria to get his opinion on a pending challenge, only to have the decision come back the exact opposite of what Perreria said was going to happen. The guy they have on ESPN (Jerry Austin) is actually pretty funny; he often says, "This is what I think should happen, but I don't know if THESE REFS are going to rule this way."

The real refs are better than the replacement refs, but they still suck.......

[links18]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

The rule is you have to challenge a specific thing. So if you challenge a spot for the line of gain, they must move the ball to/past the line of gain for the call to be reversed.

But once you challenge, the entire play is open to review, isn't it?

[lurkercowboy]

What about that "under the hood" view on the big screen at the stadium. Is that exactly what the ref is seeing?