RGIII or Andrew Luck

[burmafrd]

RGIII will get injured. Just a matter of time.

[StylisticS]

RG3 is playing great. But Luck is the better qb before and after the draft. Credit to Briles for coaching up RG3 though.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Shunpike

I haven't watched a Colts game this season. Just highlights. Luck looks good.

But I have watched Redskins games 3 times and RG3 has been playing great. Even if Luck is said to be better, RG3 should be just a whisker behind.

I don't think there's any comparison. It's Peyton Manning vs. Michael Vick.

[dexternjack]

Like a lot have said, RGIII might come out of the gates faster but the horse to bet on is Luck in the long run.

We shall see how Robert (Cam) fares next season when defenses have time to figure him out.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by dexternjack

Like a lot have said, RGIII might come out of the gates faster but the horse to bet on is Luck in the long run.

We shall see how Robert (Cam) fares next season when defenses have time to figure him out.

He hasn't even come out of the gate faster. Luck's a better QB today.

[CopenhagenCowboy]

Luck has been ridiculously good. Easy choice.

[dexternjack]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

He hasn't even come out of the gate faster. Luck's a better QB today.

I never said he did come out faster (he didn't come out slow though), just what some though was going to happen.

Luck is the better QB today, but RGIII isn't that far behind but that gap will widen soon.

[Romo 2 Austin]

Luck. Both are already top 10 in the league.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by dexternjack

I never said he did come out faster (he didn't come out slow though), just what some though was going to happen.

Luck is the better QB today, but RGIII isn't that far behind but that gap will widen soon.

I don't see how except in terms of wins and that is a result of the Colts easy schedule.

Luck has thrown 4 times the INT's that RG3 has. Not 4 more. 4 TIMES as many

As my article posted above, statistically its not even close. RG3 has been dominant

Luck

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...74/andrew-luck

SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
2012
IND
12 279 503 55.5 3,596 7.15 17 60 16 9 71.6 76.1

RG3

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...rt-griffin-iii

SEASON TEAM GP CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD LNG INT FUM QBR RAT
2012


WSH
11 205 304 67.4 2,497 8.21 16 88 4 2 72.1 104.6


Give me the more accurate QB who takes care of the ball

According to PFF, RG3's accuracy percentage (which accounts for drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes and passes where the QB is hit while throwing) is at an NFL-leading 80.5 percent. The lead itself is impressive, but to put that number in context, since PFF began tracking the stat in 2008, only Rodgers has a higher rate -- 80.6 percent. In other words, RG3 through 11 games is as accurate a passer as we've seen in the NFL over a five-year period when virtually every passing record has been torched.

[Risen Star]

Luck's running a pro style, sophisticated offense.

Griffin's running a dumbed down gimmick offense that can't be sustained long term.

Luck's the real deal. Griffin is hype. Great athlete, not a great pro QB. Now maybe he develops over time but until I see that I chalk him up as Michael Vick the sequel.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Luck's running a pro style, sophisticated offense.

Griffin's running a dumbed down gimmick offense that can't be sustained long term.

Luck's the real deal. Griffin is hype. Great athlete, not a great pro QB. Now maybe he develops over time but until I see that I chalk him up as Michael Vick the sequel.

Luck is outstanding, I love the kid. Not a knock on him, but RG3 has been flat out better.

A dumb offense doesn't do what this offense has done for 11 weeks which is balanced plays, big plays and time of possesion.

Luck has also played some incredibly bad teams.

Again, the "dumb offense" remakrs are silly to me because it is essentially the same offense that Tom Brady runs with a ZBS element

RG3's skillset is outstanding. His accuracy is uncanny. To not utilize his athletic ability would be negligent of the Redskins coaching staff.

[dexternjack]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

I don't see how except in terms of wins and that is a result of the Colts easy schedule.

Luck has thrown 4 times the INT's that RG3 has. Not 4 more. 4 TIMES as many

As my article posted above, statistically its not even close. RG3 has been dominant

Both run different offenses and I think Luck is asked to do more than RGIII with a lot less talented team around him in Indy. Luck does have over 1,000 more yds than RGIII (tonight's game withstanding).

Romo has 15 ints, hope you don't think RGIII is better than him at this point too because of that stat.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by dexternjack

Both run different offenses and I think Luck is asked to do more than RGIII with a lot less talented team around him in Indy. Luck does have over 1,000 more yds than RGIII (tonight's game withstanding).

Romo has 15 ints, hope you don't think RGIII is better than him at this point too because of that stat.

Yea, at this point I think RG3 has lapped Romo. If you asked me to trade RG3 for Romo straight up I would laugh in your face. I am not sure how you can Luck is asked to do more then RG3. Are you in coaches meetings? Do you know the calls the Colts are making? A comment like that is silly.

INT's matter. Protecting the football matters as a QB. Or else you end up being Rex Grossman

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Luck is outstanding, I love the kid. Not a knock on him, but RG3 has been flat out better.

A dumb offense doesn't do what this offense has done for 11 weeks which is balanced plays, big plays and time of possesion.

Luck has also played some incredibly bad teams.

Again, the "dumb offense" remakrs are silly to me because it is essentially the same offense that Tom Brady runs with a ZBS element

RG3's skillset is outstanding. His accuracy is uncanny. To not utilize his athletic ability would be negligent of the Redskins coaching staff.

Sure you prefer Griffin. He's a Redskin. This isn't news.

Give me Luck any day. I don't even think it's close. I wouldn't want Griffin as my franchise QB. I haven't yet seen that kind of QB win. I have seen a laundry list of Lucks win.

There's a reason why there was no question whatsoever who the first overall pick was going to be in April.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Sure you prefer Griffin. He's a Redskin. This isn't news.

Give me Luck any day. I don't even think it's close. I wouldn't want Griffin as my franchise QB. I haven't yet seen that kind of QB win. I have seen a laundry list of Lucks win.

There's a reason why there was no question whatsoever who the first overall pick was going to be in April.

I love Andrew Luck also. Give me either. I saw Luck play live in the Orange Bowl. He is going to be a star.

You still haven't given me any reason besides the "college offense" garbage which you quite honestly have no clue about or else you'd be in the NFL and not debating me on a message board. We have no idea what calls the Colts make or how they have tailored that offense.

You want me to take a guy who has thrown 4 times the INTs my guy has and has been less accurate? Please.

You want to give me the short ball argument? Apply it to Manning and Brady

RG3 has thrown a high share of short passes, with 153 of his 205 completions (74.6 percent) thrown fewer than 10 yards. But he's just a tree in an NFL forest of QBs throwing short passes. Consider that Tom Brady, with a passer rating of 105.2, is throwing short at a far higher rate. Brady has thrown fewer than 10 yards on a whopping 222 of his 308 completions entering Week 13, or 81 percent, far ahead of Griffin. Matt Ryan, with perhaps the NFL's best downfield options in Julio Jones and Roddy White (as well as Tony Gonzalez), throws short 73 percent of the time, essentially the same as Griffin. Peyton Manning (74.1), Rodgers (73.4) and even Joe Flacco (70 percent) are all thriving on the short ball at a rate virtually the same as RG3.