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Old 12-03-2012   #31
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Witten will never match Legatron's FG production......
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Old 12-03-2012   #32
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I don't believe anyone in the NFL will catch more balls than Wes Welker at this point in the season. he has come from nowhere to lead the NFL.

However, the all time record for receptions by a TE in 102 by Tony Gonzalez in 2004. Jason Witten has 88. He can easily break that record at the rate he is going.
Yet another hollow record for these Cowboys

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Yet another hollow record for these Cowboys
You've heard of "finesse teams"? Well, we are a "stats team." We have the leading passer in Cowboys' history, but only one playoff victory in that time. We stopped a game in the middle of a 5-11 season to celebrate the league's all-time leading rusher about 5 years after his prime years were over.
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Lucky to have Witten. Just wish he would have gotten in on those near TDs.

Thats the only thing lacking. TDs.


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and he's 4 catches away from the league lead.

that's pretty nuts.
We're witnessing the best TE performance we'll likely ever see in our lifetime. And for some fans it just isn't good enough.

Bye, RGIII
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So much silly in this thread..
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Yet another hollow record for these Cowboys
Hollow? We wouldn't be sniffing playoff contention without it. Those receptions all mattered.
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Back to discussing Witten, he started the season with announcers and sports writers questioning if his spleen injury had put him over the hill.

Now he is 4 catches away from the league lead.

What an amazing player. If Dallas goes anywhere this year, it rests heavily on his performance. Dallas would have never beaten the Eagles without his clutch catches.
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Hollow? We wouldn't be sniffing playoff contention without it. Those receptions all mattered.
If you subscribe to the notion that we are predestined to fail, then everything and anything can be deemed hollow.
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great player, great leader, great accomplishment.

but i dont know if this stat is necessarily good for the offense as a whole. i think dez and miles need more touches.
Dez does have 71 receptions, two less than Tony Gonzales. That ranks him 9th in the league. Dez has been targeted 103 times while Witten has been targeted 122 times. They aren't sacrificing any touches from Dez just to feed Witten. The ball is being spread around. Miles has been targeted 87 times and has caught 51 of them. That is a pretty good total considering how many snaps he has missed this season.
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I am still trying to figure out why Witten can't be mentioned with Calvin.....
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Just overlooking pretty much the rest of the thread comments, Jason Witten is one of those players I will always remember gave everything he had to this team. He will always be one of my favorites to ever wear the star.
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This notion that Witten's success is an indicator of failure is pretty silly, IMO. Yes, Witten's per catch numbers are down overall and teams will likely give us those 5-7 yard routes much of the day but those many catches have not only kept us in almost every game we've played, but they have fueled multiple, impressive comebacks. His reception numbers are truly incredible for a TE. And now with Murray's return and Dez's great leap forward we may see more results like he had against the Eagles -- several receptions + high YPC as the multiple options stretch the field.
The truth almost always lies somewhere in between...

Except on CZ.
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sheesh, i wasn't trying to say that witten was a better receiver than calvin johnson. but megatron is having a monster year so, the fact that witten has more catches than the lions superstar stands out. i mean, who would have guessed that? right. no one.

regarding witten's low yardage and touchdowns: i wish they were higher, too, but i don't blame witten. if you think they're signs that he's lost it or that he's not much of a threat, you haven't been watching this team very carefully. witten keeps this offense going when not much else is working. he makes up for a poor running game, and for receivers who are not making the impact they should because they are either hurt or having brain farts. his routes -- and his red zone opportunities -- are impacted by the poor blocking of the offensive line, which he is often called on to assist.

since we're already getting huffy over player comparisons, let me compare witten to troy aikman. troy's numbers suffered because of the offense he ran, which relied on a (historic) ground game. he didn't complain, though, because his overriding desire was to win. witten, too, has given up long pass and red zone scoring opportunities because this offense has needed him to block or run shorter routes. but he has never complained, because all he wants to do is win, and he will do whatever he is asked to do to make that happen.

so... back to witten's receptions total on the year. i think his numbers are amazing because 1) they have been vital to the team's offensive efforts and 2) everyone in the building knows he's going to be targeted a ton of times, but he manages to get open and catch nearly everything anyway.
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I am still trying to figure out why Witten can't be mentioned with Calvin.....

Good luck.

The reality is witten has been a better player for longer.

Witten has been outstanding with average quarterbacks in testaverde and Bledsoe and with a great one in romo.

Cant say the same for Johnson.

Witten is the better player. The people that make posts like run 5 yards and break are just not worth interacting with. All those plays are in rhythm, those are plays possible from intelligence and experience. Those are option routes where the qb and te must read the same thing.

making light of that shows how foolish people who do are.

Calvin Johnson has had a couple of flashy seasons and shows how incredible he can be.

Jason witten has had a hall of fame career and has been the number 1 receiver here since 2004. He has nothing to hide from in any of his years. He has played with every injury known to man and he has never passed the buck on anything in all his time here.

He is one of the all time greats.

Its too bad just like with romo so many do not understand this. The crowd barely acknowledged romo's record breaking TD sunday.

then I lost a bunch of respect for Bill Bates, He was on the sideline for the whole game sunday night and was talking to Kristie scales when romo threw the record breaking TD and when Kristie pointed out to him what just happened he pointed at his ring and said but how many of these does he have.

Bates used to be one of my favorites for years, that comment knocked that out of me.
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