Romo or RGIII?

[Gameover]

I'll take just about any QB over Romo.I'm tired of looking at the guy.

The sight of him makes me ill.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by KJJ

They're both a duel threat who can run and throw but RG3 is a better, smarter more mature player.

Yes.
Both throw a nice deep ball at times too.

Cam was asked to put it up much more than Griffen. His stats were huge as a result, but his accuracy can be (and is) questionable.

[NIBGoldenchild]

Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy

Only an fool would keep bringing someone's race into this. It doesn't have a dang thing to do with it. Geez, some people need to get over this stupid race card mentality. Just because you use that doesn't mean you are right.

I will leave the determination of myself as fool to you. But to get to to the point, I only bring up race when it fits. It does not always fit, but it does here.

What would be foolish, IMO, is the rationale that no ones points of view is EVER motivated by race. That's just naive. And to be clear, I don't think anyone who's made those comparisons are racist. But I feel it's a media-imposed mindset, that you compare white QBs to white QBs, and black QBs to black QBs. And that mindset has bleed over to fan message board discussions frequently.

It's fine if you disagree with my viewpoint here, I digress, I'd rather this discussion not devolve into something else entirely.

[cowboyfreak]

Originally Posted by Jenky

Thanks for posting this. Any break down for the number of passes to RBs and Receivers behind the LOS?

Here are the percentages taken from ESPN splits as to behind the line of scrimmage passes. I did not look at everyone but of all the top QBs Romo definately has the least amount of throws behind the line of scrimmage and RG3 has the most by FAR...

Quarterback % passes behind the line of scrimmage

Tony Romo.........10%
RG3...................22% 10% points higher on avg than all other QBs
Matt Stafford......13%
Aaron Rodgers.....16%
Matt Ryan...........15%
Drew Brees..........16%
Tom Brady...........13%
Peyton Manning....14%
Andrew Luck........12%

The point is, all things considered, RG3 is not asked to do what TR is on a daily basis. TR has almost no run support and one of the worst OL is recent memory.

[Zordon]

RG3 is a much more charismatic leader. The team wants to follow him. Romo is not naturally that type of person/leader. Give me RG3 for the next decade.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

It depends.

If Jason Garrett is the coach i'd rather stick with Romo.

Garrett wouldn't adjust to RG3's strengths so he probably wouldn't have success here.


If I had a coach that built his system around the strengths of the players he has then I would make the swap based on the age of both players.

This is the most rational thing I've read in this thread.

RG3 is so overrated though. He's nothing more than a product of the system they run in DC.

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by Wayne02

Out of everything he said in that post the only thing you can concentrate on was the race part? Ridiculous, please re-read it and then make an intelligent post next time.

It wasn't even necessary. I read it and to say they are exactly the same is not what anyone said. What people are saying wait and see if the same pitfall hits him as did the last "Phenom" which was Cam Newton. Maybe the intelligence meter is broke on your pc.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

RG3 is so overrated though. He's nothing more than a product of the system they run in DC.

i guarantee, you would not be spewing this hate if he was our qb running that system. he is a rookie for goodness sakes!

[Wayne02]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

This is the most rational thing I've read in this thread.

RG3 is so overrated though. He's nothing more than a product of the system they run in DC.

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by Nation

How are Cam and RG3 similar as players other than race?

They were both Heisman Winners.
Both top picks.
Both had all the hoopla in the world
Both had amazing Rookie years.
The latest is not having a great year.
And frankly, 3 of the last four Hiesman top picks were QB who have struggled in their second year.
And I would say the same for Luck.
Fail to see why race has to be the ONLY thing that people see. It shows what they are focused on rather than the ability and play.

[Gameover]

Originally Posted by Zordon

i guarantee you would not be spewing this hate if he was our qb running that system. he is a rookie for goodness sakes!

I agree with him.I will sit back and enjoy the fall!

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by NIBGoldenchild

I will leave the determination of myself as fool to you. But to get to to the point, I only bring up race when it fits. It does not always fit, but it does here.

What would be foolish, IMO, is the rationale that no ones points of view is EVER motivated by race. That's just naive. And to be clear, I don't think anyone who's made those comparisons are racist. But I feel it's a media-imposed mindset, that you compare white QBs to white QBs, and black QBs to black QBs. And that mindset has bleed over to fan message board discussions frequently.

It's fine if you disagree with my viewpoint here, I digress, I'd rather this discussion not devolve into something else entirely.

Well the media is a bunch of ignorant *****. Let them have that discussion. No need to bring that in to this discussion.
I don't care about the skin color and neither should anyone else. Just compare the situations, styles of play and a little history.

[Wayne02]

Originally Posted by Cajuncowboy

They were both Heisman Winners.
Both top picks.
Both had all the hoopla in the world
Both had amazing Rookie years.
The latest is not having a great year.
And frankly, 3 of the last four Hiesman top picks were QB who have struggled in their second year.
And I would say the same for Luck.
Fail to see why race has to be the ONLY thing that people see. It shows what they are focused on rather than the ability and play.

RG3 and Cam Newton do not have the same style of play. They are completely different QB's.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by Zordon

i guarantee, you would not be spewing this hate if he was our qb running that system. he is a rookie for goodness sakes!

True. That is like Saying Steve Young was a product of the system he played in or Troy Aikman as far as that goes. Hell Aikman talked about how big of a factor Norv was to his career. To claim a QB is a product of the system he plays in can be said about most every QB out there.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by Zordon

i guarantee, you would not be spewing this hate if he was our qb running that system. he is a rookie for goodness sakes!

I can guarantee you I would be.