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**Idgit** · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by visionary

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Originally Posted by Idgit

I support him, completely.

It wouldn't be the first time that a mass of people on the internet convinced themselves about something...and were wrong.

thank you for giving us a perfect a perfect example of your second statement with your first statement

visionary's referring to the imaginary massive support for Jason Garrett among Cowboy fans, in case you guys were wondering.

And I can help you with that pesky quote feature if you'd like, v. Just pm me if you need pointers because it can be tricky.

**Idgit** · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by TheFinisher

Garrett is not giving up the play calling, how many times does the FO have to say it?

I don't think he would, either, and I don't think Norv wants the Dallas OC position. But Norv's the one guy I could see the team theoretically bring in in that capacity. And then, only because he's a better play caller than Jason *and* he happens to be someone JG respects immensely who could add to the chemistry of the staff in ways over and above play calling. But it makes no sense to bring him in if you're not going to let him call plays.

17yearsandcounting · 12-07-2012

Norvs offense sucks as much as ours. Do you people watch the NFL or are you basing your opinions off of Norval from the 90's?

**Idgit** · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

So you're saying that you're screwed?

Can't think of a response I wouldn't have to moderate myself for here.

kmp77 · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by TTexasTT

ol I like how people speak like they are actually on the team.

The pro Garrett people seem to know what's going on in the background.

houstonwhodat · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by nake

Too bad for Norv they dumped Drew Brees. Unlike Garrett, who can't get the team going until the 2nd half of the game, Norv couldn't get the Chargers going until the 2nd half of the season.

Stupidest move they ever made getting rid of Brees. Rivers is not even close.

BTW, you still may get Sean Payton before it's all over with. There are reports from Jim Henderson the voice of the Saints that SP will not be back.

Who knows.....

AbeBeta · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by Idgit

I don't think he would, either, and I don't think Norv wants the Dallas OC position. But Norv's the one guy I could see the team theoretically bring in in that capacity. And then, only because he's a better play caller than Jason *and* he happens to be someone JG respects immensely who could add to the chemistry of the staff in ways over and above play calling. But it makes no sense to bring him in if you're not going to let him call plays.

I don't like the move but I do think it is a possibility. Norv likes Jason and if he wants to keep working, this would be a decent fit for him. Likely he'd come as a "consultant" or something.

Supercowboy1986 · 12-07-2012

I have kind of gone back and forth on this but I do think it would be a pretty good idea. someone mentioned wade being a better DC then HC so i think its possible for Norv to have that kind of success here. Actually I think Norv would be at an advantage because he already runs the same offense so there would not be a learning curve and it would get the play calling away from Garrett, which I am sure everyone is on board with that outcome even if Norv doesn't take the OC position.

**jobberone** · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Norvs offense sucks as much as ours. Do you people watch the NFL or are you basing your opinions off of Norval from the 90's?

I suggest u go look at SDs offensive stats over the entire tenure.

iceberg · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by plymkr

Has Jerry ever let any HC pick their full staffs, if I remember right Jerry had Garret hired prior to the wade Phillips hiring. Since Johnson left I think the big tuna got to pick his staff. But my point was if Jerry does this and always is undermining his head coaches, which I feel he does, Norv would be a good pick up for us. I've begrudgingly conceded that Jerry will always be meddling and hurt the authority of his head coaches, so we might as well get a good catch for it. I wish Jerry wasn't like this and stayed within his ownership role and hired a head coach and leave the head coach alone. I agree with you a 100% that would be the best thing for Dallas. But none of his behavior the last 3-5 years gives me any hope for that.

And yet we can't find any coach who would say Jones undermined them, meddled or the like.

noshame · 12-07-2012

If we go 6-10 Garrett is gone. That's a major step backwards and you don't let it go further.

If you believe in Romo, you want Reid, if you want to draft a QB with a strong accurate arm, you take Norv.

HoustonFrog · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by iceberg

And yet we can't find any coach who would say Jones undermined them, meddled or the like.

Probably a clause that they can't discuss it.

RXP · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by 17yearsandcounting

Norvs offense sucks as much as ours. Do you people watch the NFL or are you basing your opinions off of Norval from the 90's?

That's exactly what people are doing. They hear names who were here in the 90's and want them back in the hopes that it becomes 1993 all over again.

These same people ignore the fact that Norv Turner has been a complete and utter failure since the day he walked out of Valley Ranch. The 20 years since then never happened. Just come back to Dallas and it will be the Triplets dominating the league all over again.

They don't let things like facts and reality get in their way.

RXP · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

Stupidest move they ever made getting rid of Brees. Rivers is not even close.

BTW, you still may get Sean Payton before it's all over with. There are reports from Jim Henderson the voice of the Saints that SP will not be back.

Who knows.....

One can only hope. If Garrett is to be replaced, Payton is the only guy I would be interested in.

REDVOLUTION · 12-07-2012

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Originally Posted by lane

anyone that supports garrett as our head coach has a major screw loose.

If anyone wants to sack him after such a small sample size of head coaching they have a screw loose

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Originally Posted by kmp77

Apparently you're wrong. Apparently Garrett is changing the culture around here. Apparently we're heading in the right direction. Apparently we're blind to these positive things that are happening in the background.

Looks like it. IF you want to see it. Some do not.

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Originally Posted by Idgit

I support him, completely. And my screws appear tight.

Locktite.

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Garrett's not the issue. Norv would definitely be valuable as an OC here.

There are no HC's available who can instantly turn this lump of coal team into a diamond. It takes time. It also takes better drafts and better FA player evaluation. You can't go dumpster diving for Livings and Bernadette Peters and think you're OL is ready to go.

Norm, like Wade. Good coordinators ONLY. He could only help.