Norv Turner to be fired

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Picksix

Doesn't mean it isn't happening. Every once in a while, you might get a coach to bad mouth a former boss, but it's rare. The NFL is a pretty tight knit fraternity, and most don't want to get a reputation as someone who likes to burn bridges, especially when the guy paid him millions of dollars.

Listen to Jerry's radio interviews, when they get around to talking about players and their roles. Very often it's "I". "I" like this player in this role, "I" envision so-and-so doing that. It's rarely "we".

Ok. So without real proof we run to this. Amazing.

[Picksix]

Originally Posted by iceberg

Ok. So without real proof we run to this. Amazing.

No, you're right. I should just disrepect any opinion that doesn't jive with mine, and act like I know more than everybody else.

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Picksix

No, you're right. I should just disrepect any opinion that doesn't jive with mine, and act like I know more than everybody else.

Im not saying I know or reading between the lines of radio interviews. Im saying alk you said is speculation without an ounce of fact.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

BTW, you still may get Sean Payton before it's all over with. There are reports from Jim Henderson the voice of the Saints that SP will not be back.

Hasn't he read Cowboyszone? If he had, he'd have learned there was literally zero chance of that happening. How could the Saints version of Brad Sham know better than some posters here?

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Hasn't he read Cowboyszone? If he had, he'd have learned there was literally zero chance of that happening. How could the Saints version of Brad Sham know better than some posters here?

Great question.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Hasn't he read Cowboyszone? If he had, he'd have learned there was literally zero chance of that happening. How could the Saints version of Brad Sham know better than some posters here?

Originally Posted by Aven8

Great question.

Here's the source of the speculation, as near as I can tell. Not exactly rock-solid stuff:

A Friend of mine attended a rotary club meeting at the Holiday Inn on the northshore yesterday, Jim Henderson was the guest speaker. Someone asked him, if he thought Sean Payton would return next season. He said, the way the story broke on ESPN and the timing of the news indicated to him that Sean Payton's agent was behind the rumors. He also added that Payton knew he held all the bargaining power, when the Saints and Cowboys started so poorly. In the end, he stated that he did not believe Sean Payton would return to the Saints. Do not shoot the messenger. I just figured people on Saintsreport would want to know this information.

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/%2...saints-278903/

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Idgit

Here's the source of the speculation, as near as I can tell. Not exactly rock-solid stuff:

Neither is the speculation that JG is staying here.

[Picksix]

Originally Posted by iceberg

Im not saying I know or reading between the lines of radio interviews. Im saying alk you said is speculation without an ounce of fact.

First, I apologize for my earlier post. I'm not saying I know for a fact what's going on with Jerry or the Cowboys. And yes, you're right. Many people, whether it be here, or another board, or ESPN, make rampant speculation without anything real to back it up. But that's part of what these boards are for, as frustrating as it may be.

As for "real proof" or facts, well, I spent a few years working in pro sports. Not enough to know everything, but for sure enough to know that you don't bad mouth a former boss, if you want to keep working in that sport. Some, like Parcells, have the clout to get away with it. Most do not. I've seen first hand where an owner, or GM, or personnel director have undermined their employees, yet those employees know not to air it out publicly. It's very plausible that this is the case here as well.

So with that, here's hoping you have a wonderful holiday season. All the best to you and yours.

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Picksix

First, I apologize for my earlier post. I'm not saying I know for a fact what's going on with Jerry or the Cowboys. And yes, you're right. Many people, whether it be here, or another board, or ESPN, make rampant speculation without anything real to back it up. But that's part of what these boards are for, as frustrating as it may be.

As for "real proof" or facts, well, I spent a few years working in pro sports. Not enough to know everything, but for sure enough to know that you don't bad mouth a former boss, if you want to keep working in that sport. Some, like Parcells, have the clout to get away with it. Most do not. I've seen first hand where an owner, or GM, or personnel director have undermined their employees, yet those employees know not to air it out publicly. It's very plausible that this is the case here as well.

So with that, here's hoping you have a wonderful holiday season. All the best to you and yours.

all good man, no need to apologize. just a tense morning all around.

best to you and your family also!

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Aven8

Neither is the speculation that JG is staying here.

A coach is overwhelmingly more likely to be retained if there's not solid speculation he's going to be replaced. That's the important difference.

But I wouldn't have a problem with Payton. Just looking for the source of the speculation.

[Venger]

Originally Posted by lane

neither are the old glory days.

Oooooooooo that stings...

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by Aven8

Neither is the speculation that JG is staying here.

So JG is staying with a 6-10 record?

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Idgit

A coach is overwhelmingly more likely to be retained if there's not solid speculation he's going to be replaced. That's the important difference.

But I wouldn't have a problem with Payton. Just looking for the source of the speculation.

There wouldn't be any speculation if he would just do his job and win football games.

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

So JG is staying with a 6-10 record?

I don't think he should stay here with an 8-8 record.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by Aven8

I don't think he should stay here with an 8-8 record.

If he stays and we miss the playoffs then I;m done with this team next season