Romo will never best Aikman until he brings us three rings

[Dodger]

Originally Posted by Bleu Star

Sorry you weren't able to hit the back button on your browser before being compelled to provide nothing to the conversation.

What conversation? You call this a conversation? Lol.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by KJJ

You just said in a previous post he wasn't that good. Aikman was a great QB but you don't think so because of his less than impressive career numbers which Romo is topping. Admit it! Go find some video's of the throws he made in the games that mattered most. He tossed 4 TD passes in his first SB and was named the games MVP. It was the first 7 years of his career that made him a HOF player. Even 89 thru 91 showed how mentally and physically tough he was. The last few years the TEAM was in decline and he had no weapons to throw to this is why the Cowboys continued losing after he was released.

[View Full Quote]Why has Romo only been able to win ONE playoff game if he's better than Aikman? He had a more explosive offense in 07 than any Aikman had during his SB years even Aikman has said that. The bottom line is Romo has never had the leadership skills Aikman had and he's never been as good as Aikman when it's down to do or die.

The first 5 years he was great but the last 6 years he was average which means overall he was good not a great QB. Yes he got 3 rings which was impressive but it all came during the first 5 years of his career while the last half of his career was not that great.

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by Dodger

What conversation? You call this a conversation? Lol.

Yes.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by KJJ

What hasn't stopped Brady is playing under a great owner who went out and hired a competent head coach right from the get go who's kept talented skill position players around Brady every year he's been in the league. How long do you think Brady would have held up had he been stuck on the awful teams Aikman started and ended with? You think Brady could have escaped the stampede Aikman faced in 89 and 90? You think Brady would have been better than Aikman on those late 90's teams that had no receivers and a crappy OL with Dave Campo as head coach?

[View Full Quote]EVERY YEAR Brady has talent around him open your eyes! Seeing you're blaming Aikman for why the Cowboys stopped winning playoff games and SB's why have the Cowboys never even sniffed a SB under Romo? If he's better than Aikman how come he only has ONE playoff win and the team has folded practically every Dec/Jan with him at QB? Stop staring at Romo's career passer rating and numbers that are inflated because he plays in a pass happy offense in a pass happy era where even rookie QB's are passing for 4000 yards and get real!

Brady has probably the best OL in the game.. plsu he's playing in a watered down league, with essentially a spread offense that didn't work in the 90s era, because of the ways DBs could play. You put those classic QBs like an Aikman, Marino or Elway in this era, stats would go through the roof. The closest QB to that era QB is a Peyton Manning.

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

The first 5 years he was great but the last 6 years he was average which means overall he was good not a great QB. Yes he got 3 rings which was impressive but it all came during the first 5 years of his career while the last half of his career was not that great.

Aikman won 3 rings in his first 7 years how many QB's can you name who've accomplished that? He started with a team so dreadful it's ranked in the top 10 worst teams in NFL history and it ended up in the top 10 greatest teams in NFL history just 4 years later. The Cowboys were so dominant under Aikman the team became the undisputed team of the 90's. You can spin it anyway you want because you weren't impressed with his career stats but he was a first ballot Hall of Famer which qualifies him as a "great" player.

He won championship games vs other future Hall of Fame QB's and is one of the few QB's to win back to back SB's. If you started following the Cowboys in 88 you would have a great appreciation for Toy Aikman. What made you become a Cowboy fan in 1988 the team was in decline and went 3-13 that year?

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by KJJ

Aikman won 3 rings in his first 7 years how many QB's can you name who've accomplished that? He started with a team so dreadful it's ranked in the top 10 worst teams in NFL history and it ended up in the top 10 greatest teams in NFL history just 4 years later. The Cowboys were so dominant under Aikman the team became the undisputed team of the 90's. You can spin it anyway you want because you weren't impressed with his career stats but he was a first ballot Hall of Famer which qualifies him as a "great" player.

He won championship games vs other future Hall of Fame QB's and is one of the few QB's to win back to back SB's. If you started following the Cowboys in 88 you would have a great appreciation for Toy Aikman. What made you become a Cowboy fan in 1988 the team was in decline and went 3-13 that year?

Tom Brady did the same and he has yet to miss the playoffs after winning that 3rd ring. When was the last time the Pats missed the playoffs when Brady played the entire season or most of it?

[Hook'em#11]

Always nice to beat a dead horse, so, I will play..

Without Romo as the QB of the Cowboys..

The Cowboys would be the Browns of the NFC for the past few years.

Romo is for real and is elite. Deal with it. Aikman would be a sitting duck back in the pocket..

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by Hook'em#11

Always nice to beat a dead horse, so, I will play..

Without Romo as the QB of the Cowboys..

The Cowboys would be the Browns of the NFC for the past few years.

Romo is for real and is elite. Deal with it. Aikman would be a sitting duck back in the pocket..

I'm trying to let this horse die gracefully but y'all keep beating it while it's down. Cruel and unusual punishment I tell you..

[dallasfan4lizife]

umm, this post is ignorant in so many ways

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by dallasfan4lizife

umm, this post is ignorant in so many ways

Great insight. Thanks.

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Tom Brady did the same and he has yet to miss the playoffs after winning that 3rd ring. When was the last time the Pats missed the playoffs when Brady played the entire season or most of it?

How about answering my questions instead of continuing to divert? Dude we've already covered why Brady continues to win did you not read my post? He continues to win because he continues having talent around him. The Pats are good every year because of great drafting and free agent moves even Matt Cassel looked like a solid QB winning 11 games in 08 with all that talent around him. Brady probably wouldn't look much better than Cassel has in KC. NE is probably the best run organization in the league. They have a great owner who doesn't meddle and the best head coach in the entire league who's given the freedom to do his job.

Put Brady on a bad team behind a crappy OL and without any talent at WR or TE and let's see if he can win then. All QB's need talent around them to be successful. You claim Romo is better than Aikman and all the Cowboys have won with Romo is two division titles and one playoff game. Go drool over Romo's career passer rating and his franchise record TD passes that have you believing he's better than Aikman.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by KJJ

How about answering my questions instead of continuing to divert? Dude we've already covered why Brady continues to win did you not read my post? He continues to win because he continues having talent around him. The Pats are good every year because of great drafting and free agent moves even Matt Cassel looked like a solid QB winning 11 games in 08 with all that talent around him. Brady probably wouldn't look much better than Cassel has in KC. NE is probably the best run organization in the league. They have a great owner who doesn't meddle and the best head coach in the entire league who's given the freedom to do his job.

[View Full Quote]Put Brady on a bad team behind a crappy OL and without any talent at WR or TE and let's see if he can win then. All QB's need talent around them to be successful. You claim Romo is better than Aikman and all the Cowboys have won with Romo is two division titles and one playoff game. Go drool over Romo's career passer rating and his franchise record TD passes that have you believing he's better than Aikman.

Anyone who can't see Romo plays the QB position a lot better than Aikman doesn't have 20/20 vision. Now his overall career doesn't matchup to Aikman but he is clearly a better player.

When Romo first took over the team I used to fantasize about him playing at the Vet against the Eagles since he had skills when it came to getting away from defenders.

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Anyone who can't see Romo plays the QB position a lot better than Aikman doesn't have 20/20 vision.

I must be blind then... I love Romo but I love Troy Aikman's breadth of work even better. One thing that I think we can all agree on, Tony still has time to elevate his status in the minds of many fans. His work is far from done. He will get that next contract and hopefully part of those negotiations include stern conversation around shoring up the oline.

[CowboysFanSince88]

Originally Posted by Bleu Star

I must be blind then... I love Romo but I love Troy Aikman's breadth of work even better. One thing that I think we can all agree on, Tony still has time to elevate his status in the minds of many fans. His work is far from done. He will get that next contract and hopefully part of those negotiations include stern conversation around shoring up the oline.

This statement should end this discussion

Romo is the more exciting and elusive QB and Aikman is the less mobile more accurate QB who had a better overall career.


The End

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by CowboysFanSince88

Anyone who can't see Romo plays the QB position a lot better than Aikman doesn't have 20/20 vision. Now his overall career doesn't matchup to Aikman but he is clearly a better player.

When Romo first took over the team I used to fantasize about him playing at the Vet against the Eagles since he had skills when it came to getting away from defenders.

You're still avoiding my questions. Romo is a better athlete than Aikman was and plays in a passing offense that utilizes his playmaking skills and ability to extend plays. Romo is a poor mans Brett Favre. He can make a spectacular play one minute and a boneheaded play the next. Aikman was a much more steady QB than either Favre or Romo which is why he has 3 rings. He brought his A game to big games. In 3 SB appearances Aikman only tossed one int compared to 5 TD passes. He wasn't exciting like Favre who's gunslinging style produced mega TD's and mega int's but you could count on him not to turn the ball over in critical situations and to be at his best when it mattered most.

You're in love with Romo's numbers and Houdini escapes. He's exciting but it's at a cost...TURNOVERS! If he never leads the Cowboys to the playoffs again you'll still think he was a better QB than Aikman. Topics like this separate the knowledgeable fans from those who aren't. You must have been born in 1988 because you clearly don't remember Aikman's career it's obvious by some of your comments. You first said he was terrible from 96 to 2000 when in fact he led the Cowboys to a playoff win in 96.

When I brought that to your attention you then said he was terrible from 97 to 2000. lol You went on to claim he was great his first 5 years when in fact he struggled his first 2 years because he was a young QB that had a bad team around him. His game improved as the Cowboys improved. The examples you've used with Tom Brady and why he keeps winning and Aikman didn't show you don't understand the game and have no clear recollection of his career or the 90's Cowboys.