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Old 12-10-2012   #181
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You don't get in the face of your owner for any reason. Ratliff is a player. Nothing more. If this story is legit and he lashed out at the owner for having to move to DE, he's way out of line and should be immediately released from the team.
Going to have to disagree here - he is a contracted professional, he is not Jerry's property. Jerry bought his services, he didn't buy HIM. It's hard to say who was truly out of line since we don't have direct observation of what happened, but I don't buy this notion that a highly trained professional has to take unconditional crap from his employer. If Rat was in the wrong, then he is wrong, but if Jerry is, then that doesn't make Rat's role that of sitting there and taking it.

If Ratliff overreacted, that's on him. If Jerry instigated Rat with his general nincompoopery then that's on him.

Either way, I don't think the owner/GM needs to be in the locker room in general, unless it's to pop champagne over a Lombardi.
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Old 12-10-2012   #182
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12 pages of people taking one side or another between two men who had an argument, all based off a small blurb that gave very meager and uncorroborated details. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that ANYONE who is indignant toward either Jerry or Ratliff aren't just using this very slim story (that could grow into something but hasn't yet) as evidence for their own ax to grind.


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Old 12-10-2012   #183
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If Ratliff overreacted, that's on him. If Jerry instigated Rat with his general nincompoopery then that's on him.

Either way, I don't think the owner/GM needs to be in the locker room in general, unless it's to pop champagne over a Lombardi.
I don't think it is the GM's responsibility to tell a guy where he is going to play. That is the coach's decision. This is just a microcosm of what is wrong with this team.
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Old 12-10-2012   #184
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Either way, I don't think the owner/GM needs to be in the locker room in general, unless it's to pop champagne over a Lombardi.
Great post, Venger! I hate the way JJ is in the locker room after a game, that's the time for players to get exposure not for him to get more.

This situation is like the old saying "the truth is probably somewhere in the middle". Both men allowed this to flare up, probably. JJ, being the mature one, should have walked away before emotions got out of hand.
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Old 12-10-2012   #185
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Jerry is lucky that Jay did not rip off his wig.

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Old 12-10-2012   #186
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I would hope not. You can't have that kind of attitude on the team, regardless of how good the player has been.

Of course it would be even better if the other guy in the argument wasn't a part of the team next year too. Now that's a dream I'd like to live.

Ditto!
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Someone finally stands up to Jerry and he gets bashed.
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Old 12-10-2012   #188
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What? Jerry is the General Manager. He's every ones boss.
I think you confuse "boss" with "guy who makes the personnel decisions" -- Jerry does not tell the players what to do. That is not his job. Ratliff's bosses are Garrett, Ryan, and possibly (depending on how the staff runs things) Brian Baker.
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Jerry is lucky that Jay did not rip off his wig.
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Anyone think he's still on the team next year?
Unfortunately, yes, I think Jerry will still be on the team next year.
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Unfortunately, yes, I think Jerry will still be on the team next year.
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I guess Jerry can call out players in from of other players...

That's just weird.


Who needs the draft? Jerry's got a wand.
AS: Cowboys ice their own kicker in 19-13 OT loss

“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.


God help us...............
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Unfortunately, yes, I think Jerry will still be on the team next year.
Post of the year!!!
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On one hand, Ratliff can't act this way towards any coach or executive, but on the other, the owner simply can't walk into the lockerroom and question the integrity of a player. My guess is that a significant # if not a majority of professional athletes would've reacted similarly to Ratliff.

I think Ratliff is severely worn down, nearing the end, and will only provide us glimpses of the player he was, but I don't think he's one to fake it either.

Just another day in Jerryland.
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Unfortunately, yes, I think Jerry will still be on the team next year.




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