MY idea draft as of right now - Dallas Cowboys Forum

LatinMind · 12-09-2012

Round 1 Chance Warmack G Alabama
Round 2 Jackson Jeffcoat OLB Texas
Round 3 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
Round 4 Zac Dysert QB Miami Ohio
Round 5 Josh Johnson CB Purdue
Round 6 Mark Jackson T Glenville State

RS12 · 12-10-2012

I like 1 and 4 alot. I have seen Dysert as high as 2. Would love him in 4.

robert70x7 · 12-10-2012

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Round 1 Chance Warmack G Alabama
Round 2 Jackson Jeffcoat OLB Texas
Round 3 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
Round 4 Zac Dysert QB Miami Ohio
Round 5 Josh Johnson CB Purdue
Round 6 Mark Jackson T Glenville State

I think Spencer has earned a contract this year and we bring him back. I know we could always use more pass rushers, but I would like to see the defensive line addressed. Other than that, I like Dysert and even Mark Jackson as a small school guy that has some upside. Just hope he wouldn't be Arkin reincarnate.

CATCH17 · 12-10-2012

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I think Spencer has earned a contract this year and we bring him back. I know we could always use more pass rushers, but I would like to see the defensive line addressed. Other than that, I like Dysert and even Mark Jackson as a small school guy that has some upside. Just hope he wouldn't be Arkin reincarnate.

I was anti Spencer because I didn't feel like he deserved 10 mill a year. I still don't think he is a 10 mill a year player.

If we can ink him up for around 6.5 - 7.5 a year then I think that would be good.

Manwiththeplan · 12-10-2012

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I was anti Spencer because I didn't feel like he deserved 10 mill a year. I still don't think he is a 10 mill a year player.

If we can ink him up for around 6.5 - 7.5 a year then I think that would be good.

He may not get ten, but it will be closer to 9, then 6.5

Just for reference, If he finishes with 10+ sacks, most would agree that he wasn't over paid this year ($8.9 Million), so for him to take a pay cut would be absurd.

xwalker · 12-10-2012

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Originally Posted by RS12

I like 1 and 4 alot. I have seen Dysert as high as 2. Would love him in 4.

Dysert has a super quick release.

Manwiththeplan · 12-10-2012

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Round 1 Chance Warmack G Alabama
Round 2 Jackson Jeffcoat OLB Texas
Round 3 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
Round 4 Zac Dysert QB Miami Ohio
Round 5 Josh Johnson CB Purdue
Round 6 Mark Jackson T Glenville State

So who starts on the D-line next year? Are we hoping Ratliff gives us 16 games at his 2008-2010 level of play?

CATCH17 · 12-10-2012

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He may not get ten, but it will be closer to 9, then 6.5

Just for reference, If he finishes with 10+ sacks, most would agree that he wasn't over paid this year ($8.9 Million), so for him to take a pay cut would be absurd.

Yeah but I don't trust him at all so I'd hate to have another Doug Free on our hands and he is very capable of that.

Manwiththeplan · 12-10-2012

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Yeah but I don't trust him at all so I'd hate to have another Doug Free on our hands and he is very capable of that.

And if he doesn't play well, cut him like we are likely to do with Free. While I agree you will never win deep in the playoffs if you over pay for averege players and commit to much money to them, you will also fail just as bad by letting quality players walk because you're afraid to commit long term to them.

Truth is we messed up by not signing him longterm for the $7-8 million it probably would've taken last year. But letting him walk, will only make the problem worse.

CATCH17 · 12-10-2012

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And if he doesn't play well, cut him like we are likely to do with Free. While I agree you will never win deep in the playoffs if you over pay for averege players and commit to much money to them, you will also fail just as bad by letting quality players walk because you're afraid to commit long term to them.

Truth is we messed up by not signing him longterm for the $7-8 million it probably would've taken last year. But letting him walk, will only make the problem worse.

What did he ever do to show he was worth 8 mill a year?

It's easy to say that now.

LatinMind · 12-10-2012

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So who starts on the D-line next year? Are we hoping Ratliff gives us 16 games at his 2008-2010 level of play?

I could see Dallas going to FA for NT. If not i think John Jenkins of Georgia would be a nice pick up in rd 2 aswell. Hatcher, Crawford and Lissemore will be the DE core

Western · 12-10-2012

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Round 1 Chance Warmack G Alabama
Round 2 Jackson Jeffcoat OLB Texas
Round 3 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State
Round 4 Zac Dysert QB Miami Ohio
Round 5 Josh Johnson CB Purdue
Round 6 Mark Jackson T Glenville State

Excellent selections.

If invited to the All-star games, the NFL combine, and depending on his Pro day performance, Zac Dysert could rise up draft broads ~ as QB's are typically over-valued in the draft. He could go as high as the top of the 2nd round.

For the future, with Romo getting older, drafting a young, smart, and team leader as a QB would be well advised - maybe as early as the 2nd round. During his playing time at Miami Ohio, Dysert has been a three-time captain for the RedHawks (the tendency for Garrett has been selecting college players who have been team leaders and captains).

LatinMind · 12-10-2012

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Excellent selections.

If invited to the All-star games, the NFL combine, and depending on his Pro day performance, Zac Dysert could rise up draft broads ~ as QB's are typically over-valued in the draft. He could go as high as the top of the 2nd round.

For the future, with Romo getting older, drafting a young, smart, and team leader as a QB would be well advised - maybe as early as the 2nd round. During his playing time at Miami Ohio, Dysert has been a three-time captain for the RedHawks (the tendency for Garrett has been selecting college players who have been team leaders and captains).

I agree. IM sure by the time the draft comes he could very well end up being a late 1st. Depends on how much he impresses. the two guys im hoping for is Warmack and Thomas. Warmack obvious need. But Thomas IMO has the best overall game in college in terms of Safety. Guy can play either spot tackles ballhawk great in open space. He reminds me of a more talented Sensabaugh. Sensabaugh has limitations but overall has a decent game. With thomas those Limitations arent there.

Manwiththeplan · 12-10-2012

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What did he ever do to show he was worth 8 mill a year?

It's easy to say that now.

If you look at the market value for the position, it was easy to say last year. People just don't put the numbers into the correct context.

Did you see the contract that Ahmad Brooks got? Now if you want, tell me how much better he is/was than Spencer, but I doubt the 49ers believe that was wasted money just because he doesn't put up Aldon Smith numbers.

Back in 08' Calvin Pace had a contract that avereged 7 per year.

It's the price you at a premium position, and the only way around it is to have someone on a rookie deal.

Manwiththeplan · 12-10-2012

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I could see Dallas going to FA for NT. If not i think John Jenkins of Georgia would be a nice pick up in rd 2 aswell. Hatcher, Crawford and Lissemore will be the DE core

FWIW, Jenkins is projected to go in round 1. Not sayong we have to go NT first, just don't convince yourself that we can get value that good in round 2.