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Old 12-12-2012   #196
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Yes, but all of those injuries are isolated incidents that happened after years of playing the position. RG3 has already been sidelined for running multiples times during his first year. Looks like he's about to miss at least a game, too. This doesn't bode well for his career going forward.
You're missing the point. Brady and Palmer's injuries didn't happen because they were older, they would've happened regardless if they were rookies or ten year veterans. No one takes a helmet on the knee like that and plays another game that season. Romeo's collarbone didn't break because he was old.
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Old 12-12-2012   #197
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The argument that Griffin will have a shortened career will have a much better answer after next year. Over the off season he will spend a lot of time improving his slide, and his situational awareness. I think we saw a huge improvement in his use of the sideline after his Atlanta hit. Likewise, assuming this hit ultimately did little damage, it should have shown him the dangers of crossing into the middle of the field.

Let's not forget that he's a rookie, so a lot of these situations are the first time he's seeing the speed and power of NFL defenses. Most people here are expecting a sophomore slump, but I have high hopes that he will use his intelligence, and keep working with KS to improve the offense next year, though he may see his passer rating dip below 100.0 during his "slump".
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Improving his slide? I don't think I can live on this planet anymore.
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Improving his slide? I don't think I can live on this planet anymore.
By all means... go away.
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By all means... go away.
I'll get right on that now I have your endorsement.
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Yes, but all of those injuries are isolated incidents that happened after years of playing the position. RG3 has already been sidelined for running multiples times during his first year. Looks like he's about to miss at least a game, too. This doesn't bode well for his career going forward.
How do you explain Matt Stafford then? He is 6'3" 232, a "pocket passer," was completely healthy in college. Yet played in only 13 games in his 1st 2 seasons, but hasn't missed a game in his last 2....
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You know, if you look up gullible in the dictionary, it's not there...

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gul·li·ble adjective easily deceived or cheated, Dictionary.com...

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The argument that Griffin will have a shortened career will have a much better answer after next year. Over the off season he will spend a lot of time improving his slide, and his situational awareness. I think we saw a huge improvement in his use of the sideline after his Atlanta hit. Likewise, assuming this hit ultimately did little damage, it should have shown him the dangers of crossing into the middle of the field.

Let's not forget that he's a rookie, so a lot of these situations are the first time he's seeing the speed and power of NFL defenses. Most people here are expecting a sophomore slump, but I have high hopes that he will use his intelligence, and keep working with KS to improve the offense next year, though he may see his passer rating dip below 100.0 during his "slump".
He'll probably slump somewhat. He still looks like a budding superstar to me.

His style of play subjects him to a greater risk of injury, but there's no knowing how his body will hold up or that injuries will be a particular problem for him. He's part of the vanguard of new-style QBs that we're going to see more of, regardless. This is how NFL QB position is evolving.

I hate the Skins more than the next guy, but I don't mind saying RGIII is obviously the real deal. I'm looking forward to an NFCE with the Skins relevant again for the first time in a long while and consider a slumped Eagles team relatively fair compensation for that. I'm just hoping we get a chance to play you guys for the NFCE in week 17. There'd be some amazing story lines for that game.
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I'm looking for someone on the Giants, Cowboys, or Redskins to GUARANTEE a playoff birth or victory.

Who has the guts to step up and call it?
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I'm looking for someone on the Giants, Cowboys, or Redskins to GUARANTEE a playoff birth or victory.

Who has the guts to step up and call it?
I would say with twin nitwits in New York: Osi and Tuck. But all they do is whine about getting respect. I am going to go with our own nitwit: DeAngelo Hall.
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So you'll take stats over Wins?

......and BTW the Colts blew up just about everything after last season. Coach - GM - offense/defense. Reggie Wayne and Freeney are the only two players I recognize. Not to mention their NEW head coach hasn't been with the team in weeks.

Keep running the ball RG.... those hits won't get any easier!
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RG3 is practicing, at least on a limited basis: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...skins-practice
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RG3 did it without his #1 for half the season (Garson) and without his #1 TE (Davis). Luck hasn't lost many if any of his offensive skill position players.

And you overlook the fact that Luck has played a MUCH weaker schedule then the Skins.

You can dis RG3 all you want. But he's changing tons of minds (media, coaches, and players) and quite possibly the game itself. We'll see in the coming years. To discount him and call him Aliki Smith 2.0 and just a joke.
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He'll probably slump somewhat. He still looks like a budding superstar to me.

His style of play subjects him to a greater risk of injury, but there's no knowing how his body will hold up or that injuries will be a particular problem for him. He's part of the vanguard of new-style QBs that we're going to see more of, regardless. This is how NFL QB position is evolving.

I hate the Skins more than the next guy, but I don't mind saying RGIII is obviously the real deal. I'm looking forward to an NFCE with the Skins relevant again for the first time in a long while and consider a slumped Eagles team relatively fair compensation for that. I'm just hoping we get a chance to play you guys for the NFCE in week 17. There'd be some amazing story lines for that game.
I feel the same way. RGIII is a talent and is going to be a thorn in our side for the next decade if he can stay healthy.
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RG3 did it without his #1 for half the season (Garson) and without his #1 TE (Davis). Luck hasn't lost many if any of his offensive skill position players.

And you overlook the fact that Luck has played a MUCH weaker schedule then the Skins.

You can dis RG3 all you want. But he's changing tons of minds (media, coaches, and players) and quite possibly the game itself. We'll see in the coming years. To discount him and call him Aliki Smith 2.0 and just a joke.
Are they carving his bust for Canton already? I'll bet Jostens has already sized him for his multiple superbowl rings! Maybe he can also save us from this fiscal cliff.

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Are they carving his bust for Canton already? I'll bet Jostens has already sized him for his multiple superbowl rings! Maybe he can also save us from this fiscal cliff.

Never said any of that. But i will not discount him and call him worse then or the 2nd coming of Aliki Smith either. Love him or hate him, i don't care. Dude is a beast and if he can stay healthy he will be a game changer.

And btw, RG3 is already in the HOF.. at least his jersey and cleats are from the MNF game against the Giants
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