SNF: 49ers vs Patriots

[TheCoolFan]

The Patriots are done. They haven't been legit since they were winning Super Bowls with a dominant defense and a grind-it-out offense. Now they are a mediocre defense with a finesse offense.

[MissouriCowboy]

Originally Posted by StylisticS

The NFC is so much better than the AFC this season that it really doesn't look close.

I agree. New England has not been that great this year. They are good but not great.

[windward]

One of those weird games. If they meet again, I doubt it would be so lopsided.

[MissouriCowboy]

Originally Posted by TheCoolFan

The Patriots are done. They haven't been legit since they were winning Super Bowls with a dominant defense and a grind-it-out offense. Now they are a mediocre defense with a finesse offense.

Since spygate they have been exposed. I hate when teams play prevent defense.

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by StylisticS

The NFC is so much better than the AFC this season that it really doesn't look close.

We went 3-1 against the AFC, but should have been 4-0, the Baltimore game.

[windward]

Originally Posted by TheCoolFan

The Patriots are done. They haven't been legit since they were winning Super Bowls with a dominant defense and a grind-it-out offense. Now they are a mediocre defense with a finesse offense.

2 narrow Super Bowl losses means not legit? Lol.

[TheCoolFan]

Originally Posted by windward

2 narrow Super Bowl losses means not legit? Lol.

There's a reason why they lost those Super Bowls. Finesse offense gets exposed by physical football. When they won their first three Super Bowls, they would wear out opposing teams but the post-Spygate Pats have been the teams that end up getting worn down themselves. They are built for the regular season

[MissouriCowboy]

They cheated against Rams.

[187beatdown]

Originally Posted by TheCoolFan

There's a reason why they lost those Super Bowls. Finesse offense gets exposed by physical football. When they won their first three Super Bowls, they would wear out opposing teams but the post-Spygate Pats have been the teams that end up getting worn down themselves. They are built for the regular season

If they were so "exposed" how did they get to a place 30 other teams couldn't?

[MissouriCowboy]

Originally Posted by Section444

He's been one of the top DT/DE's in the league for damn near a decade. Sadly, he played on a poor Bengals team for many years, then transitioned to a bad 49ers team. Now that they are a good 49ers team, he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.

Edit: Looks like ESPN actually has him ranked as the #1 DT in the game:
DEFENSIVE TACKLE - TOP 10
RK PLAYER GRADE
1 Justin Smith 92
2 Haloti Ngata 90
3 Ndamukong Suh 88
4 Vince Wilfork 86
5 Richard Seymour 84
6 Cullen Jenkins 83
7 Kyle Williams 82
Darnell Dockett 82
9 Geno Atkins 81
B.J. Raji 81

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_...rican_football)

[TheCoolFan]

They were knocked out in the 1st round two straight years...then in 2011 they lucked into playing a Tebow-gimmick Broncos team and narrowly escaped the Ravens by way of a Lee Evans dropped TD. And it's not even like the Ravens are all-world either

[Biggems]

Originally Posted by TheCoolFan

There's a reason why they lost those Super Bowls. Finesse offense gets exposed by physical football. When they won their first three Super Bowls, they would wear out opposing teams but the post-Spygate Pats have been the teams that end up getting worn down themselves. They are built for the regular season

and it had nothing to do with a miraculous play by Eli avoiding the rush and then Tyree catching the ball one handed on his helmet.....and in the 2nd, Welker dropped a pass he normally catches and the Giants were faking injuries to waste time.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by Section444

He's been one of the top DT/DE's in the league for damn near a decade. Sadly, he played on a poor Bengals team for many years, then transitioned to a bad 49ers team. Now that they are a good 49ers team, he's finally getting the recognition he deserves.

Edit: Looks like ESPN actually has him ranked as the #1 DT in the game:
DEFENSIVE TACKLE - TOP 10
RK PLAYER GRADE
1 Justin Smith 92
2 Haloti Ngata 90
3 Ndamukong Suh 88
4 Vince Wilfork 86
5 Richard Seymour 84
6 Cullen Jenkins 83
7 Kyle Williams 82
Darnell Dockett 82
9 Geno Atkins 81
B.J. Raji 81

That list is obviously bogus without Spears on there.....I mean he had a huge sack against the first ballot HOFer in DeCastro.....that list is trash.

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Originally Posted by TheCoolFan

The Patriots are done. They haven't been legit since they were winning Super Bowls with a dominant defense and a grind-it-out offense. Now they are a mediocre defense with a finesse offense.

I might be adding them to my list of not-quite-so-feared teams along with the Steelers (read: overated.) Note: they are still doing good.

Every elite team this season has laid an egg at least once, but if there is one team I'd name as most dangerous - it's the 49ers.

Tonight they are definitely dangerous.

[windward]

This game isn't over.