Connecticut shooting ***Do NOT post about gun laws***

[StarMan]

There should be a full-time, armed police officer at every school in the country. Cost be damned, it can be done and you can't put a price on our children. Otherwise, the kids and the faculty are defenseless when some nut job does something like this.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by StarMan

There should be a full-time, armed police officer at every school in the country. Cost be damned, it can be done and you can't put a price on our children. Otherwise, the kids and the faculty are defenseless when some nut job does something like this.

I don't know if that is the right answer. One cop might not be able to stop it and then you are basically telling the tots that schools aren't safe.

[Phrozen Phil]

Originally Posted by Dallas

BING BING BING BING !!!


Unfortunate for Canada, we have a WINNER in the USA.


Totally true, Hoof. Preach it.

IT IS NOT THE SCHOOLS DECISION TO SHARE THIS CRAP w/ my kid.

And for the record, my son also knew about this when I picked him up.

"The teacher was talking about it all day in class, Dad."

My son is a teacher and I asked him how his school handled the issue. The information was still pretty fuzzy on Friday afternoon, but they knew that something bad had happened. There is regular written communication home to the parents on Fridays and parents received a note to discuss any concerns with their kids. He told me that the staff met first thing on Monday to discuss how to deal with any inquiries from the children. He has a class of grade fours (9 year olds) and he told me that they would respond to any questions from the kids. They did respond to the kids, focusing on their individual concerns. He stressed that maintaining communication with parents helped maintain a common understanding between parents, school and the kids.

They did not make it a point of discussion for class, focusing on the regular school matters at hand.

This was not about who wins, but about being professional educators and maintaining a good relationsip with families. Kids I'm working with talked with me today about Newtown and focused my efforts on how they were coping.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

This is the kind of mentality that I was worried about. I do wonder as well what kind of parent allows an eleven year old to take a gun to school.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...215442104.html

[Achilleslastand]

Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan

This is the kind of mentality that I was worried about. I do wonder as well what kind of parent allows an eleven year old to take a gun to school.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...215442104.html

The parents should be charged as well.........

[theebs]

Originally Posted by StarMan

There should be a full-time, armed police officer at every school in the country. Cost be damned, it can be done and you can't put a price on our children. Otherwise, the kids and the faculty are defenseless when some nut job does something like this.

This is the worst possible view point.

Keep guns away from our schools on all levels. Far away.

I can't believe anyone would even think guns in any way belong in a school.

[dexternjack]

Originally Posted by theebs

This is the worst possible view point.

Keep guns away from our schools on all levels. Far away.

I can't believe anyone would even think guns in any way belong in a school.

I agree yet disagree with this. School shootings are happening more often and steps need to be taken to reduce this. With the media/TV/Movies/Video games and etc today, guns around schools aren't something children have never seen.

I don't know what the answer is, but if a few officers deter these kinds of events from happening, especially from my little girl, I am all for it.

It is a sad day when you can't feel comfortable with your children in a supposedly safe place, school.

[Illini88228]

Originally Posted by dexternjack

School shootings are happening more often

That's simply not true.

Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of the century.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2FU3wj5Fn

These events are no doubt tragic, but they are not becoming more common. We simply know much more about them now because of the 24 hour media circus. The worst attack on a school in American history happened in Michigan in the 1920s.

[dexternjack]

Originally Posted by Illini88228

That's simply not true.

Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of the century.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2FU3wj5Fn

These events are no doubt tragic, but they are not becoming more common. We simply know much more about them now because of the 24 hour media circus. The worst attack on a school in American history happened in Michigan in the 1920s.

You made your point but one is still too many. I wonder how many of those shootings happened to kids around the ages of 6? High school and junior high school kids know when to run facing imminent danger. Those kids in Conn are young, they haven't been exposed to that kind of evil with no instinct to run and hide.

I really wish that idiot would have been caught alive to face the consequences and if my girl would have been one of the innocent victims, that guy would endure a very slow and painful death at my hands.

I am still out of sorts over this if yall can't tell

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by Dallas

BING BING BING BING !!!


Unfortunate for Canada, we have a WINNER in the USA.


Totally true, Hoof. Preach it.

IT IS NOT THE SCHOOLS DECISION TO SHARE THIS CRAP w/ my kid.

And for the record, my son also knew about this when I picked him up.

"The teacher was talking about it all day in class, Dad."

there is no winner, just a different point of view

[Faerluna]

From a piece I had seen and reposted on Facebook that was written by a Police Chief somewhere. While I find it all relevant, the practical application of change that is actually doable, I've bolded:

Teachers should not be armed in a school. I do not want teachers having the responsibility of being in a shoot/don’t shoot scenario or worrying about proper backdrop. We constantly work those scenarios and they are unnerving at best. Mrs. Crabtree should not have to worry about breaking out her Glock while also trying to give directions to 25 screaming 1st graders. Additionally, a small fraction of the gun people who “talk the talk” about what they would do in a life or death situation would most certainly not “walk the walk”. It’s very easy to say or type “If I was there with my concealed carry, I would have killed him”….it’s not so easy to put that play in motion. Many would shoot themselves in the leg, and then urinate. Again…that’s a fraction of the gun people, so don’t come unglued.

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[View Full Quote]It is time to make our schools secure. The time for talk is done….it was done YEARS ago. There should be NO one in the building during the school day except for staff, students and police. Dedicate a secure room/vestibule near the entrance for conferences or meetings with parents. Set a perimeter of cameras and locked doors, so these kids can be safe….the teachers can be safe….and the building can function as a school and not a murder scene.

[Illini88228]

Originally Posted by dexternjack

You made your point but one is still too many. I wonder how many of those shootings happened to kids around the ages of 6? High school and junior high school kids know when to run facing imminent danger. Those kids in Conn are young, they haven't been exposed to that kind of evil with no instinct to run and hide.

I really wish that idiot would have been caught alive to face the consequences and if my girl would have been one of the innocent victims, that guy would endure a very slow and painful death at my hands.

I am still out of sorts over this if yall can't tell

I want to be clear. I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't do things to try to prevent them. The United States still outpaces the rest of the developed world in mass shootings by a lot. I was just pointing out that this isn't a new or worsening problem.

When people get nostalgic for the "good old days" when stuff like this supposedly didn't happen, they're really just being nostalgic for a time when they didn't know that stuff like this was going on.

[DallasCowpoke]

Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan

This is the kind of mentality that I was worried about. I do wonder as well what kind of parent allows an eleven year old to take a gun to school.

Originally Posted by Achilleslastand

The parents should be charged as well.........

Where does it say in that article his parents gave him the gun to take?

[trickblue]

Originally Posted by theebs

This is the worst possible view point.

Keep guns away from our schools on all levels. Far away.

I can't believe anyone would even think guns in any way belong in a school.

The problem you have is that attacks like this happen where the assailant knows there will likely be no guns...

It's been floated around by some to place a soldier or two at every school...

There is no simple solution...

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by trickblue

The problem you have is that attacks like this happen where the assailant knows there will likely be no guns...

It's been floated around by some to place a soldier or two at every school...

There is no simple solution...

Nope.

There is no smple solution.

If they can't get at the kids in schools, then maybe the public library or at the mall (which has already been done).

The problem needs to be attacked aother way or ways.