How good has Lissemore been at NT? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

RamziD · 12-20-2012

It seemed like he did a good job last week against the Steelers. I noticed more disruptive plays from him than when he plays at DE. To any of you who watch the All-22 or breakdown film, how good has Lissemore been at NT?

TheCount · 12-20-2012

How good has he been? He has not been very good at all, but he's had his moments. Even Spears has had his moments.

gimmesix · 12-20-2012

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Originally Posted by RamziD

It seemed like he did a good job last week against the Steelers. I noticed more disruptive plays from him than when he plays at DE. To any of you who watch the All-22 or breakdown film, how good has Lissemore been at NT?

He's been fine starting the past two games. A lot of people are probably higher on him after the Steelers game because his name was called, but he held his ground against Cincinnati, too.

perrykemp · 12-21-2012

I've keyed in on in the past couple of games and he hasn't been embarrassing himself -- which is about all you can ask considering he isn't a true NT.

MissouriCowboy · 12-21-2012

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Originally Posted by perrykemp

I've keyed in on in the past couple of games and he hasn't been embarrassing himself -- which is about all you can ask considering he isn't a true NT.

He has played better but still Dallas needs a hoss in the NT position. You need a big guy to take up o lineman in a 3-4 while lb make plays.

Doomsday101 · 12-21-2012

Considering he has missed a few games this year and got back starting with the Cinn game I think he is now getting back into game shape. Hopefully he will be able to make a bigger impact over the last couple of games.

Manwiththeplan · 12-21-2012

I'd rather play him at end, starting or not and bring him in on nickel downs to rush the passer.

This year we don't have a choice, but next year I'd like to see something like this

LDE- Hatcher, Lissimore
NT- ???, ???
RDE- Spears, Crawford

Spears and Ratliff are interchangeable. IMO, only 1 should be on the roster and neither should play the nose. Ratliff is obviously better, but Spears has much less bagage. He has stayed healthy the last 2 years, isn't gonna ***** about playing DE and is much cheaper.

But this leaves us with a gapping whole at NT. It would be great if we could sign some journeyman NT and draft one in either round 1 or 2.

xwalker · 12-21-2012

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Originally Posted by RamziD

It seemed like he did a good job last week against the Steelers. I noticed more disruptive plays from him than when he plays at DE. To any of you who watch the All-22 or breakdown film, how good has Lissemore been at NT?

I did a complete review of him in the Bengals game. I reviewed both the broadcast footage and the All-22. He was very good in that game.

When I originally watched that game, I thought that he was responsible for a running play that resulted in a big gain for the Bengals; however, in review, that play was all on Dan Conner.

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**Idgit** · 12-21-2012

Garrett spoke highly of the job he's done in his conference this week, though that's not exactly surprising. The gist was that he's making little impact plays here and there and that he grades out consistently doing what we ask of him. And he's getting healthier. We're lucky to have a deep DL, that's for sure. For a third string NT, he's doing a great job in my book. If we've really stabilized our S coverage problems with street free agents, this team has patched up a gashing hole in the defense in remarkably little time. Albright playing ILB with some range with Sims out has been another blessing of it's own in that regard. Pretty impressive against some good teams.

If they hold up defensively more or less this weekend, it bodes well for us in WAS and possibly beyond....something I'd have said looked impossible on Thanksgiving day.

Bullflop · 12-21-2012

Considering how moderately Lissemore has been used, my expectations of him are about as modest as his backup status would reasonably call for. He's filling in for Ratliff and doing a pretty commendable job, IMO. Backups aren't normally expected to take over a position without some loss of efficiency. I view him strictly as a backup and nothing more than that. We could easily do worse.

**Idgit** · 12-21-2012

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Considering how moderately Lissemore has been used, my expectations of him are about as modest as his backup status would reasonably call for. He's filling in for Ratliff and doing a pretty commendable job, IMO. Backups aren't normally expected to take over a position without some loss of efficiency. I view him strictly as a backup and nothing more than that. We could easily do worse.

My expectations for him were probably higher than most, but I've viewed him as a starting-quality guy we were lucky to have in the rotation. Same with Brent and, to an increasing extent now, Rat.

Lisemore's play this year has been pretty much in line with my expectation. His first game back he looked a bit hobbled, but since then, he's been steady and done enough little things to help us win. Pretty much all you can ask for.

Doomsday101 · 12-21-2012

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Originally Posted by Bullflop

Considering how moderately Lissemore has been used, my expectations of him are about as modest as his backup status would reasonably call for. He's filling in for Ratliff and doing a pretty commendable job, IMO. Backups aren't normally expected to take over a position without some loss of efficiency. I view him strictly as a backup and nothing more than that. We could easily do worse.

Yes but he has been out of the lineup with a high ankle sprain, prior to the cinn game he was out of the lineup for a few weeks.

Bullflop · 12-21-2012

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Yes but he has been out of the lineup with a high ankle sprain, prior to the cinn game he was out of the lineup for a few weeks.

Very true. I'm certainly not ruling out any notion that he may very well improve with added experience. His versatility has been quite valuable, no question there. If he manages to become a starter at some point, so much the better. I'd expect him to gain a bit more bulk if he were to become a starter at NG. As it is, his body is being tailored to suit two positions, that being both DE and NG. Don't misunderstand me, I like him and do believe he has realistic possibilities to improve. As it is, he's doing admirably, IMO.

Doomsday101 · 12-21-2012

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Very true. I'm certainly not ruling out any notion that he may very well improve with added experience. His versatility has been quite valuable, no question there.

Hard to play on a high ankle sprain Lissemore is a good player I think he is getting his legs back under him. He seemed to have some difficulty in the cinn game but looked better this past game.