Must win, no win situation for Tony - Dallas Cowboys Forum

dfense · 12-25-2012

In all reality, Romo's play of late, has probably gotten the team farther than they should have gotten with all the injuries they have had on defense.

Going forward, even if Tony throws 4 TDs and they get past the Skins, Romo is going to have to win at least one playoff game to shake a little of the "choker" label so many have saddled him with.

Could you imagine having to play a Seattle team coming off a three game run averaging 45 points? Without five defensive starters and possibly Ware out also?

Romo essencially has to win the next two games by himself just to get the monkey off his back. It's really too bad that injuries have unfortunitely robbed Romo of his time to shine. He can't catch a break.

GusTheo · 12-25-2012

The thing is though, as unlikely as it may be, it's possible!

The defense doesn't have to play great, it just needs to play OK. If the defense plays OK, and just makes a timely stop here or there the Cowboys will have a chance to beat anyone.

And as far as I can tell, most of the national media has been pretty fair with Romo this year. Granted he's played out of his mind, I've been hearing a lot of "The Cowboys would win maybe 3-4 games a year if Tony Romo wasn't the QB, he does stuff that maybe only Big Ben and Aaron Rodgers can do" type comments (Which is true).

EDIT: But let's not feel sorry for him either. It wasn't easy for anyone. You want to win, you have to do what it takes. Romo will be the first one to admit that if he wants to shake this "label" then he has to win. Doesn't matter if the defense is ravaged by injuries or not, the Cowboys have been in every game up this point, and even though the defense got torched against a top flight offense last week, it doesn't change the fact that we won the OT coin toss last week. If we would've marched down the field and scored a TD, Brees never would've touched the ball. Cowboys offense could've kept their own defense off the field. I'm not blaming the offense, they did score 31 points, and had a sick come back, but it doesn't change the fact that they had the ball first and weren't able to close the game out, that ultimately falls on them, not the D.

(I am in no way shape or form blaming the offense, or giving the defense a pass)

cowboyfan4life2 · 12-25-2012

Great qbs put their team on their back when it matters most, if tony wants to be elite, he needs these next two games.

ufcrules1 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by dfense

In all reality, Romo's play of late, has probably gotten the team farther than they should have gotten with all the injuries they have had on defense.

Going forward, even if Tony throws 4 TDs and they get past the Skins, Romo is going to have to win at least one playoff game to shake a little of the "choker" label so many have saddled him with.

Could you imagine having to play a Seattle team coming off a three game run averaging 45 points? Without five defensive starters and possibly Ware out also?

Romo essencially has to win the next two games by himself just to get the monkey off his back. It's really too bad that injuries have unfortunitely robbed Romo of his time to shine. He can't catch a break.

Right, cause nobody ever helps Romo. Dez didn't help Romo with his underthrown balls the other day? Dez taking it to the house on a 10 yard pass was all Romo right? Romo has a chance to be a leader and lead his team to the playoffs against a team that has just as bad of a defense an OL as we do. Never mind the Seattle game, he will impress a lot of us with simply winning a "Win and you're in" game.

ufcrules1 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by cowboyfan4life2

Great qbs put their team on their back when it matters most, if tony wants to be elite, he needs these next two games.

Agreed about great QB's putting teams on their backs and leading them. I would be beyond happy if he plays lights out against Washington and helps take his team to the playoffs.

fifaguy · 12-25-2012

Romo has had a great year, period. Can't ask anything more from him than what he has done.

Arkyvarminter · 12-25-2012

Tony Romo will be labeled a "choker" by the media and fans alike until he wins a SB. There are two types of people who label Romo a choker, the media and people who don't know football. He is the QB for America's team and being scrutinized, labeled, and even hated goes with the territory. IF I could play any position in the NFL for any team, QB for the Cowboys would be my last choice. Tons of pressure and the spotlight is alway shining bright on Romo. He HAS to win a SB to quiet the critics and that is really not fair since he has done really well in the NFL and is highly regarded by those who aren't biased for one reason or another. Winning another playoff game won't change their mind....

ufcrules1 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Arkyvarminter

Tony Romo will be labeled a "choker" by the media and fans alike until he wins a SB. There are two types of people who label Romo a choker, the media and people who don't know football. He is the QB for America's team and being scrutinized, labeled, and even hated goes with the territory. IF I could play any position in the NFL for any team, QB for the Cowboys would be my last choice. Tons of pressure and the spotlight is alway shining bright on Romo. He HAS to win a SB to quiet the critics and that is really not fair since he has done really well in the NFL and is highly regarded by those who aren't biased for one reason or another. Winning another playoff game won't change their mind....

I disagree. I think if he wins a few "win and you're in" and playoff games he will get a hell of a lot more respect from the non homers, media, and realists.

DFWJC · 12-25-2012

I want the team to win, regardless.
But it had crossed my mind that by carrying the team further than maybe they really should go given the injuries and line, Romo could be giving narrow-minded fans more ammo if they are finally overmatched in the playoffs.

But so what.
I want to win and let the chips fall.

Dez is ballin right now, so Romo isn't doing all the heavy lifting

theebs · 12-25-2012

Romo is not a choker by any stretch.

Really wish even his own fans would stop repeating this stuff

Turn off espn

Arkyvarminter · 12-25-2012

Lets face it, and this is no excuse but Romo has had little help getting a ring. He's never had even a decent D and a terrible Oline......Oh, i forgot, a coach...

dfan32 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Arkyvarminter

Tony Romo will be labeled a "choker" by the media and fans alike until he wins a SB. There are two types of people who label Romo a choker, the media and people who don't know football. He is the QB for America's team and being scrutinized, labeled, and even hated goes with the territory. IF I could play any position in the NFL for any team, QB for the Cowboys would be my last choice. Tons of pressure and the spotlight is alway shining bright on Romo. He HAS to win a SB to quiet the critics and that is really not fair since he has done really well in the NFL and is highly regarded by those who aren't biased for one reason or another. Winning another playoff game won't change their mind....

Exactly! Romo has handled it very well though. Unfortunately all media has degraded to tabloid journalism and in many cases, they're not even good at that.
They should be asking themselves what it takes to become an elite journalist because it's obvious very few of them have any idea what a journalist is, much less "elite".

ufcrules1 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by DFWJC

I want the team to win, regardless.
But it had crossed my mind that by carrying the team further than maybe they really should go given the injuries and line, Romo could be giving narrow-minded fans more ammo if they are finally overmatched in the playoffs.

But so what.
I want to win and let the chips fall.

Dez is ballin right now, so Romo isn't doing all the heavy lifting

The redskins have a beat up defense and oline too. I doubt you hear the excuses from them though. Our team is fine and the Oline has played great the last 2 games. Sure, the Redskins can score on our defense but we can easily score on tiers too.

With regards to Seattle, they are the dark horse that nobody wants to play but any given Sunday and we can beat them. If we could hang with Atlanta for that whole game then we can hang with Seattle at home too.

cajuncocoa · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Arkyvarminter

Tony Romo will be labeled a "choker" by the media and fans alike until he wins a SB. There are two types of people who label Romo a choker, the media and people who don't know football. He is the QB for America's team and being scrutinized, labeled, and even hated goes with the territory. IF I could play any position in the NFL for any team, QB for the Cowboys would be my last choice. Tons of pressure and the spotlight is alway shining bright on Romo. He HAS to win a SB to quiet the critics and that is really not fair since he has done really well in the NFL and is highly regarded by those who aren't biased for one reason or another. Winning another playoff game won't change their mind....

cowboyfan4life2 · 12-25-2012

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Originally Posted by ufcrules1

I disagree. I think if he wins a few "win and you're in" and playoff games he will get a hell of a lot more respect from the non homers, media, and realists.

I don't agree, Marino won a lot of playoff games, and still got labeled with that tag, granted romo isn't in the Marino class, but it comes down to winning the big one.