What if another TE broke Gonzalez's reception record instead of Witten

[ringmaster]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

I don't think it would matter. Tight ends, field goal kickers...its just not as attractive as the wide receiver, running back or quarterback position. Or even the sack record. Tight end will always be a afterthought. Or it may change with the way the tight end position is evolving.

Calvin Johnson's record of 1,892 yds and is one pace for a 2,000 yd season, or Adrian Peterson's attempt at Dickerson's record is more significant in alot of people's eyes.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by ringmaster

Calvin Johnson's record of 1,892 yds and is one pace for a 2,000 yd season, or Adrian Peterson's attempt at Dickerson's record is more significant in alot of people's eyes.

I would say Peterson breaking Dickerson record. Reason they have not changed rules to make it easier on RB.

[ringmaster]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I would say Peterson breaking Dickerson record. Reason they have not changed rules to make it easier on RB.

I see what you're saying Dooms regarding the RB record it would be more impressive that's for sure.

As for Calvin Johnson, and yes I agree that the league has made it easier for WRs regarding the rules he is that once in a lifetime talent at WR, and imho is a bigger, faster version of Jerry Rice and while his team isn't as good his record of 1,892 yds and is only 108 yds shy of 2,000 yds is just as impressive.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by ringmaster

I see what you're saying Dooms regarding the RB record it would be more impressive that's for sure.

As for Calvin Johnson, and yes I agree that the league has made it easier for WRs regarding the rules he is that once in a lifetime talent at WR, and imho is a bigger, faster version of Jerry Rice and while his team isn't as good his record of 1,892 yds and is only 108 yds shy of 2,000 yds is just as impressive.

I agree it is impressive. I just think it is harder to accomplish what Peterson may end up doing. 1984 Dickerson put up 2,105 yards

[ringmaster]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

I agree it is impressive. I just think it is harder to accomplish what Peterson may end up doing. 1984 Dickerson put up 2,105 yards

I agree you won't hear any arguements from me on this one.

Do you see another WR breaking Johnson's record anytime soon?

[cowboyschmps3]

It be all over sport networks and all big cause that certain tight end would be the best ever but since its witten they down play it

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by ringmaster

True Hos as I stated in a previous post that Gronk is the equivalent to Witten in terms of skill set.

I think Gronk is overall even more skilled that Witten.
But you must give credit to someone doing it over many years.
Witten has done that and more

[ringmaster]

[quote=DFWJC;4923011]I think Gronk is overall even more skilled that Witten.
But you must give credit to someone doing it over many years.
Witten has done that and more[/QUOTE Gronk does seen to be more of a WR than Witten, that I agree with.

[Illini88228]

It's not a particularly sexy so record, so I'm not super surprised that it's not getting more attention than it is.

But, it does amaze me how little attention Jason Witten gets in general. His career numbers are unreal. He's the best tight end in football and has been for quite a while, and he gets no respect whatsoever from the media. He is an actual tight end too, not just an overgrown wide receiver. I always assumed it's because he's not dramatic or flashy at all. He's a total blue collar type. Maybe if he had a big flashy dance or something...

[Joshmil53]

Originally Posted by ringmaster

I agree you won't hear any arguements from me on this one.

Do you see another WR breaking Johnson's record anytime soon?

Dez Bryant

/homer

[Dale]

Originally Posted by Future

Agreed.

This is a so so record at a very unsexy position. I'm not surprised there isn't much attention being paid.

Agreed. If he were setting the all-time single-season receptions record, it'd be one thing. But he's setting the single-season record for tight ends. Doesn't carry nearly the same cache -- just like when he set the single-game receptions record for a tight end. It's a great feat, but nothing like some of the other single-season record chases going on right now.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps

Perhaps AdamJT can assist with this answer as far as Witten targets compared to other TE's...

Witten has been targeted 140 times this season, the most by any tight end. In second is Jimmy Graham, who has been targeted 21 fewer times and has 27 fewer catches.

When Gonzalez had 102 catches in 2004, he was targeted 148 times. And that's not even his career high for targets. He was targeted 150 times (93 catches) in 2000, 154 times (99 catches) in 2007 and 155 times (96 catches) in 2008.

When Witten had 96 catches in 2007, he was targeted 141 times.

[AdamJT13]

Originally Posted by kmd24

Most people don't care. Few remember that Dallas Clark had a chance to tie the record in 2009. The Colts were 14-1, and Manning and Clark played one quarter during the regular season finale in snowy Buffalo. Clark had 7 catches when he sat down and needed just 3 to break the record.

Clark had seven catches in the first quarter-plus (they played into the second quarter), and six of them came on screens and shovel passes behind the line of scrimmage. The other was a dumpoff pass thrown 6 yards over the middle.

Reggie Wayne caught five passes to get to 100 as well -- four of them were on wide receiver screens, and the other was on a pass thrown 4 yards downfield.

It's like the Colts just wanted to get both Clark and Wayne 100 catches the cheap way before letting them sit, and they didn't care about anything else. Their starters were in for 20 plays -- 18 passes and two runs (for minus-3 yards).

[kmd24]

Originally Posted by AdamJT13

Clark had seven catches in the first quarter-plus (they played into the second quarter), and six of them came on screens and shovel passes behind the line of scrimmage. The other was a dumpoff pass thrown 6 yards over the middle.

Reggie Wayne caught five passes to get to 100 as well -- four of them were on wide receiver screens, and the other was on a pass thrown 4 yards downfield.

It's like the Colts just wanted to get both Clark and Wayne 100 catches the cheap way before letting them sit, and they didn't care about anything else. Their starters were in for 20 plays -- 18 passes and two runs (for minus-3 yards).

Exactly right. Clark's last catch was the first play of the 2nd quarter on 3rd and I think 4. He lined up as tailback and caught a pass that was practically a handoff. If they wanted the record they could have easily gotten it on the next series, I think.

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I just saw a guy with a customized NFL t-shirt, it said "Whitten" on the back.

Hes gotta have a most misspelled last name record for this board.