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Old 12-31-2012   #16
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Yes I'm fine with it. We'll get to rebuild the proper way at QB, something we were never afforded in the post-Aikman Era because Jerry made that dumb trade for Joey Galloway.

People keep bringing up Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Hutchinson and Henson but come on...those were just bargain basement QBs/reclamation projects. If we actually invested in a true elite prospect then that's a different story.

And let's not act like a rookie QB will bring us back to the three straight 5-11 years. We don't know that for sure because the overall talent level on this team is still MUCH better than 2001.
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Old 12-31-2012   #17
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thats sick joke right?
We were one game away.. is that not better than 4-12?

Also TheCoolFan you make a good point, we haven't really invested in an elite QB prospect but that's the problem. There are none this draft and nest year is not looking any better.
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Old 12-31-2012   #18
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Yes, I am..

Dez is young. Murray is. Defense seems pretty young.

Few older players that can possibly squeak out a few years.

It is time. Romo is what he is.

And, it sucks. Because I like Romo. But, been too many times where he has the chance to rise and doesn't..

He ain't alone though. The defense needs work too. Maybe hit with Romo for another year, but, they gotta find someone else at QB.
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Old 12-31-2012   #19
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What have any of those guys done to tell you they're better than Romo?
Dalton is getting paid $612,000 this season. He has thrown 27 TDs this season vs 16 Interceptions. He has led the cruddy Bengals the playoffs both of his 1st two seasons in the league.

Kaepernick is getting paid $607,000 this season. His QB rating is near 100.

Romo's salary was $9,000,000. He hasn't led his team to to the playoffs for 4 years (2009). He was one of the league leaders in interceptions.

Which guys provides more value when you look at their production vs their salary?
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Old 12-31-2012   #20
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Then resign Romo, stay in the playoff race chances...and in 3 years, it will be be time to trade the entire draft if need be, to get Manziel.
Well, at least three 1st Rd'ers perhaps. But the way I see it, you guys can either hope for a 2nd or 3rd round QB to turn into a star....or realize that you might have to give up some of the future to secure a can't miss prospect (especially if Manziel has another Heisman like performance during his sophomore year).
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We were one game away.. is that not better than 4-12?

Also TheCoolFan you make a good point, we haven't really invested in an elite QB prospect but that's the problem. There are none this draft and nest year is not looking any better.
being 8-8 and just missing playoff each year is far worst than being 4-12 and having opportunity of getting dynamic QB in any draft. I really think Kyle Orton could get Dallas in the 6-10 to 8-8 range and miss playoffs each year. Maybe your too young to remember when Dallas was winning Super Bowls but what your seeing is not working.
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Dalton is getting paid $612,000 this season. He has thrown 27 TDs this season vs 16 Interceptions. He has led the cruddy Bengals the playoffs both of his 1st two seasons in the league.

Kaepernick is getting paid $607,000 this season. His QB rating is near 100.

Romo's salary was $9,000,000. He hasn't led his team to to the playoffs for 4 years (2009). He was one of the league leaders in interceptions.

Which guys provides more value when you look at their production vs their salary?
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Dalton is getting paid $612,000 this season. He has thrown 27 TDs this season vs 16 Interceptions. He has led the cruddy Bengals the playoffs both of his 1st two seasons in the league.

Kaepernick is getting paid $607,000 this season. His QB rating is near 100.

Romo's salary was $9,000,000. He hasn't led his team to to the playoffs for 4 years (2009). He was one of the league leaders in interceptions.

Which guys provides more value when you look at their production vs their salary?
Putting Kaepernick into this argument is an absolute joke. As if he has anything to do with the Niners success. Not worth addressing.

Dalton is a good young QB and im not saying he wont be better, but until he wins something in the playoffs I don't think you can say he's better than Romo. Right now he's doing exactly what Romo did as a young QB.
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being 8-8 and just missing playoff each year is far worst than being 4-12 and having opportunity of getting dynamic QB in any draft. I really think Kyle Orton could get Dallas in the 6-10 to 8-8 range and miss playoffs each year. Maybe your too young to remember when Dallas was winning Super Bowls but what your seeing is not working.
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Dalton is getting paid $612,000 this season. He has thrown 27 TDs this season vs 16 Interceptions. He has led the cruddy Bengals the playoffs both of his 1st two seasons in the league.

Kaepernick is getting paid $607,000 this season. His QB rating is near 100.

Romo's salary was $9,000,000. He hasn't led his team to to the playoffs for 4 years (2009). He was one of the league leaders in interceptions.

Which guys provides more value when you look at their production vs their salary?
Yeah because if we draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round they are guaranteed to be as good as those guys....

Keep Romo until a better option presents itself. Despite what people think Romo gives us a chance. Why take a risk on young QB just because and set the franchise back another 3-5 years? Plus waste more careers of young talented players that we have.

Romo>Orton or any other QB that would be available next year
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Are Cowboys Fans prepared to pay the price of a new QB?
Not next season. This is going to be a CRAP QB draft.
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Yeah because if we draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round they are guaranteed to be as good as those guys....

Keep Romo until a better option presents itself. Despite what people think Romo gives us a chance. Why take a risk on young QB just because and set the franchise back another 3-5 years? Plus waste more careers of young talented players that we have.

Romo>Orton or any other QB that would be available next year
We could also just keep Romo while still drafting a young guy to groom. The Romo haters seem to be ignoring that possibility.
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being 8-8 and just missing playoff each year is far worst than being 4-12 and having opportunity of getting dynamic QB in any draft. I really think Kyle Orton could get Dallas in the 6-10 to 8-8 range and miss playoffs each year. Maybe your too young to remember when Dallas was winning Super Bowls but what your seeing is not working.

Yea your right, sadly i was born in 94 and missed out on the Superbowl run so the best years ive seen have been with Romo at the helm.. which is not saying much. And as far as i am concerned those old cowboys teams are ALOT more talented than these ones, i just feel that we still need one or two more years before we blow it up.
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Doesnt matter if we are or not, we will need to rebuild very soon. We have some good young pieces but we are not even half way done.
Bye Free and Bernadeau.
Bye Austin and Ogletree.
Bye Sensy and McCray.

Bye Garrett.
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So work is pretty brutal today.. and all i keep hearing is how we need to trade romo and start over. And believe me that third int was like a shot to my heart but honestly i have this question.

Are cowboys fans really ready to be 4-12, 3-13 and a bottom dweller for a few years?

Trust me, theres not going to be another Andrew luck, Robert griffin and Russel wilson draft in another 10 years.This years draft is weak and i dont know about next year. I became a fan during the carter years, i know what failure feels like but i am not sure some of our more fickle fan base can understand what it feels like to be a bad team.

would you really trade 8-8 for a couple 4-12 seasons and hope that the QB we drafted ends up being elite?

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