
|
12-31-2012
|
#16
|
|
Shrinkage
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Dec 2005 |
Location: | Dallas |
Posts: | 34,640 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffInDC
..................Romo just may be the best of the NON-ELITE QB's. I never agree with him (and rarely agree with Skip). But, they were dead on today. Romo can get you to certain levels, but he CAN'T get you beyond them. He needs a ton of help. And, if Jerry and Jason don't finally figure this out, this team is doomed.
Smith & Bayless also explored the question we've all been throwing around at some point today - If some folks get their wish and the team parts with Romo, who do you replace him with? There are NO RGIII's, Andrew Lucks', or even Russell Wilsons' in the draft this year. And, don't even think about FA. Seriously, who's out there?
|
I'll say this again. Be prepared to lose next season in order to get a top draft pick in 2014. We have to completely sacrifice a year to do this. Why not? We've sacrificed nearly 17 years, what's one more?
23. That's the number. 23 years without drafting a QB in the first round.
You expect to win NASCAR with a KIA motor? Then why expect to win a Super Bowl with an undrafted QB?
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#17
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Posts: | 1,023 |
|
What about the guy from WV?
I saw one game & he was fantastic but never watched them again. Is he worth drafting?
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#18
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Feb 2005 |
Posts: | 4,713 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clove
I'll say this again. Be prepared to lose next season in order to get a top draft pick in 2014. We have to completely sacrifice a year to do this. Why not? We've sacrificed nearly 17 years, what's one more?
23. That's the number. 23 years without drafting a QB in the first round.
You expect to win NASCAR with a KIA motor? Then why expect to win a Super Bowl with an undrafted QB?
|
why tank a season, if the FA is good and you have draft picks, move up. Other teams have to accept they suck and need hte picks. Dont tell me the Lions YET again will be right there, not buying it. Not buying the Chiefs can solve their problems with one player.
You want a qb, you believe that one guy will solve the trenches and injuries, go for it, break hte bank and land him, but if you re wrong, dont want to hear the same plan twice.
Frankily if i can get the trenches better with FA im willing to do it if the player can make the difference. If he cant, give me a guy in the second round and lets work with him. A good line can make a QB better, Dez can make a qb better.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#19
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 179 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionel
Why are you guys bashing Romo so much? Would Dallas have gotten this far without him? Can any of you guys honestly say RG3 is better than Romo?
|
Right, 8-8 is so far!! (Sarcasm)
It's Average every year and is unacceptable.
You continue to fall back on Romo, saying he is going to get us there.
But he is not and the longer he is here, it's just wasting the career of Dez, and every other young or HoF player we have on this team.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#20
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Location: | WPB, FL |
Posts: | 2,833 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lionel
Why are you guys bashing Romo so much? Would Dallas have gotten this far without him? Can any of you guys honestly say RG3 is better than Romo?
|
There will be plenty who answer YES.
The Romo haters are in their glory today!
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#21
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 877 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
You fix both trenches...specifically Oline. You hope the defense stays healthy and you move on from there.
You can have your choice of QBs from the draft and until this Oline and play calling issues are fixed you will get similar results...or worse...and yes it could be MUCH worse at QB.
A pocket passing QB with less than great mobility (not talking running QB) would get killed here.
As bad as Romo might be, as bad as the line is...Romo makes this line look better than it is.
|
Thank you. BP, I'm still trying to figure what I typed that was so horrid that folks think I'm bashing Romo for agreeing with SAS and Bayless NOT bashing Romo. They didn't bash him. They, in a rare occurence, pointed out the obvious - he's NOT Payton, Brady, Rodgers, or Brees. But, he's still a damn good QB that needs just a tad more help than the ELITE guys. That is NOT a bad place to be. If Romo had a truly top-notch D, a better O-Line, and a consistent running game - make that a COMMITMENT to the running game, he could do more than enough to lead this team far into the playoffs. That is all that was being said.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#22
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | May 2012 |
Posts: | 116 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiningStar
ugh what would ROmo have done if the defense was not so hurt and Lee created a few turnovers? DOes Romo play defense? Guard? Center? FB? Tired of this crap. the team fell around Romo. Can anyone tell me why Ogletree is still on the team? McCray? Sensabuagh? Anyone?
|
You do realize Skins only scored 7 points till late in the third quarter.How about instead of Romo throwing two picks in the first half he throws 2 TDs and helps a beat up defense.If Romo had put some points on the board it would have forced skins to throw more.Elite QBs pick blitzes apart,rookies and Romo have problems with the blitz .Like they say pressure in Romos face and he will make mistakes.
Last edited by kelc : 12-31-2012 at 12:46 PM.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#23
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 877 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by acer941
Right, 8-8 is so far!! (Sarcasm)
It's Average every year and is unacceptable.
You continue to fall back on Romo, saying he is going to get us there.
But he is not and the longer he is here, it's just wasting the career of Dez, and every other young or HoF player we have on this team.
|
At what point are you and others going to realize that, if Romo doesn't make that pick or others in his career, what have you seen from this D over the past 4-5 years that make you ABSOLUTELY COMFORTABLE that they will NOT blow the lead? THEY GAVE UP 270+ YARDS RUSHING LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Putting Orton in OR getting another QB does NOT change the fact that this D RARELY stops anyone when the game is on the line. Tell me how many game-changing plays D. Ware has made in his career, like an LT or Reggie White did? As much as you may want to get rid of Romo, I would trade D. Ware TODAY if I could multiple picks for him.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#24
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Jun 2004 |
Posts: | 3,055 |
|
ALL QBS NEED A TON OF HELP, getting to that next level. No QB can get to the top by himself!!
Yes, Romo threw that game away definitely with the 3rd Int, the first Int I want to say was on Ogletree, but the other two was on Romo.
This game for the people who like to blame, lay it at the feet of Injuries, Rob Ryan the defensive players and with the 3rd int Romo, no further than that.
I am sick and tired of Sensabaugh, I'm tired of Spears I'm tired of Jenkins, I'm tired of Claiborne and his no tackling, actually the whole defense cannot tackle, I'm tired of Ware, I would clean house and only keep Carter and Lee, find players with their mentality and toughness and build around them on defense, but I would not do it with Rob Ryan, he and his brother are riding off of their father's name
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#25
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2010 |
Posts: | 1,113 |
|
The words "Stephen A. Smith said it best" should never come out of anyone's mouth ever.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#26
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2008 |
Posts: | 433 |
|
Same thing year after year. People will debate whether Romo is elite. If you have to debate it then he isn't. He is a good QB who can win a few games for you. He can't take us to the SB or even an NFC Championship game. Ship him off to Buffalo or Arizona where he would be able to shine. He's never going to win in Dallas. The stage is too big for him. It's time to rebuild. This 8-8 every year is getting old.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#27
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 179 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffInDC
At what point are you and others going to realize that, if Romo doesn't make that pick or others in his career, what have you seen from this D over the past 4-5 years that make you ABSOLUTELY COMFORTABLE that they will NOT blow the lead? THEY GAVE UP 270+ YARDS RUSHING LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Putting Orton in OR getting another QB does NOT change the fact that this D RARELY stops anyone when the game is on the line. Tell me how many game-changing plays D. Ware has made in his career, like an LT or Reggie White did? As much as you may want to get rid of Romo, I would trade D. Ware TODAY if I could multiple picks for him.
|
What do you think would happen if the 49ers where playing without Willis, Bowman, Whitner, Justin smith, and Aldon smith playing 50%?
Exactly, it would be hard for any team to defend the #1 rushing team with all of your best Defensive players hurt....
Think before you talk...
Oh, and when the game counted. Did the defense not get a stop?!!!??
They did there job and got the ball back to Romo with 3timeouts and plenty of time...
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#28
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 7,098 |
|
Griffin won last night only completing 9 passes for 100 yards. Why? Why did Romo have to throw the ball 40 times?
The Redskins didn't put the whole game on Griffin, they depended on their running game and defense to win the game. Their OL opened up huge lanes for Morris. What did our OL do?
Once again Garrett's game plan called for throwing away the first half and putting the whole game on Romo in the fourth quarter.
You can put Luck, Griffin, Russel or even Brees behind this OL and under Garrett and you would get the same results. Jerry should just put his ego aside and let some one outside his inner circle to take over the decision making and coaching. This problem goes way beyond the Romo years.
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#29
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 179 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Cowboy
Griffin won last night only completing 9 passes for 100 yards. Why? Why did Romo have to throw the ball 40 times?
The Redskins didn't put the whole game on Griffin, they depended on their running game and defense to win the game. Their OL opened up huge lanes for Morris. What did our OL do?
Once again Garrett's game plan called for throwing away the first half and putting the whole game on Romo in the fourth quarter.
You can put Luck, Griffin, Russel or even Brees behind this OL and under Garrett and you would get the same results. Jerry should just put his ego aside and let some one outside his inner circle to take over the decision making and coaching. This problem goes way beyond the Romo years.
|
It was simple... They were blitzing more guys than we could block.
So how is that on the O-Line?!
It was the fact that the ball wasn't coming out in time and romo didn't make the Adjustments needed!
|
|
|
12-31-2012
|
#30
|
|
Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 7,098 |
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by acer941
It was simple... They were blitzing more guys than we could block.
So how is that on the O-Line?!
It was the fact that the ball wasn't coming out in time and romo didn't make the Adjustments needed!
|
Garret's offense doesn't call for short passes and crossing routes, its passes to the sidelines and down the field.
Cam Cameron was fired mid year, he ran the same out dated offense Garrett runs. Turner got fired today, his offense was putrid and out dated. Perhaps that's where the changes need to start. At least let Callahan install his offense.
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:22 PM.
|