Has there ever been a QB as unclutch? - Page 6 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

JimboWHO · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Everson24

Archie Manning. And how many playoff games did he win? Even the so called clutch QBs need help. Look at Big Ben. He had the number one defense but his running game and pass blocking failed and no playoffs. Same with Eli this year.

Yeah, you know who doesn't suck but in fact thrives in road playoff games?

Eli - the guy some of you clowns compare Romo to.

Please.

JJM

JoeyBoy718 · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Kilyin

That roughing the passer on Hatcher sealed our fate. If not for that, we probably get the ball back with a 6 point deficit and a couple minutes left. I'm sure you already knew that, though.

I agree. We would've been down 6 with no timeouts and about 1:45 to score a touchdown. However, that scenario is a lot more difficult than the scenario Romo blew by throwing his 3rd pick. In that scenario, we were only down by 3 and had about 4 minutes left and all our timeouts.

muck4doo · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by JimboWHO

Yeah, you know who doesn't suck but in fact thrives in road playoff games?

Eli - the guy some of you clowns compare Romo to.

Please.

JJM

Maybe he will be golfing with Romo this year

fifaguy · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718

I agree. We would've been down 6 with no timeouts and about 1:45 to score a touchdown. However, that scenario is a lot more difficult than the scenario Romo blew by throwing his 3rd pick. In that scenario, we were only down by 3 and had about 4 minutes left and all our timeouts.

Both were big mistakes. We'll never know how Romo would have fared if Hatcher hadn't smacked Griffin, but we do know that that Romo blew the chance that he had to put us back in the driver's seat.

Kilyin · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by JimboWHO

Yeah, you know who doesn't suck but in fact thrives in road playoff games?

Eli - the guy some of you clowns compare Romo to.

Please.

JJM

In that case, I'll be sure and watch Eli in those road playoff games in the coming weeks.

DMAC · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

Danny White was 0-4 and sucked horribly in these types of game. Try again.

You just lost ANY credibility you MIGHT have had with that "fact". Just curious as to where you pulled that number from?

Some of you children.

JimboWHO · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by muck4doo

Maybe he will be golfing with Romo this year

Romo can tee off first while Eli takes his rings off and puts them safely in his pocket.

JAM

JoeyBoy718 · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by Kilyin

In that case, I'll be sure and watch Eli in those road playoff games in the coming weeks.

A QB only gets about 10 years to make a legacy for himself. Some QBs build a legacy of consistency. They consistently put up great numbers and have their team in the playoffs. Peyton is like this in my opinion. He always has MVP caliber seasons and gets his team a high-seed in the playoffs. Unfortunately, he's only won 1 Super Bowl. Other QBs weren't consistent but had a few great runs in their careers--Eli and Ben are like this to me. My point is, regardless of if you're a consistent stat-gainer or had a few glimpses of brilliance in your career, you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING to make the people remember you by. Romo has never done anything. He puts up good numbers during the regular season, chokes in key moments, and has his team playing .500 ball year in year out. That's his legacy.

percyhoward · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by juck

Any NFL historians know? I think the problem with him is mental and it will never change.

Who really knows? He played well in the one playoff win, and he has been outstanding in December and January the last three seasons.

He's already had the best year of any QB on a team that didn't have a winning record or go to the playoffs. That was last year.

This year, despite playing on a team with only three playoff appearances and one playoff win, he had his 6th consecutive Top 10 season in passer rating. There's no other QB in the history of football who has a record resembling that. In fact, now there are only 8 quarterbacks who have ever had more consecutive top 10 seasons than Romo: Their names are Montana, Manning, Brady, Dawson, Fouts, Young, Graham, and Griese.

So he has put himself in some elite company with his regular season performances, and in doing so, has elevated what have typically been otherwise bad teams into win-or-go-home positions where both he and his team have been hit-and-miss.

muck4doo · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by JimboWHO

Romo can tee off first while Eli takes his rings off and puts them safely in his pocket.

JAM

That's where the gnats also put their season, despite Mara trying to cheat the Cowboys and Redskins with his spirit stuff. Have fun in Eli's pocket.

JoeyBoy718 · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by percyhoward

Who really knows? He played well in the one playoff win, and he has been outstanding in December and January the last three seasons.

He's already had the best year of any QB on a team that didn't have a winning record or go to the playoffs. That was last year.

This year, despite playing on a team with only three playoff appearances and one playoff win, he had his 6th consecutive Top 10 season in passer rating. There's no other QB in the history of football who has a record resembling that. In fact, now there are only 8 quarterbacks who have ever had more consecutive top 10 seasons than Romo: Their names are Montana, Manning, Brady, Dawson, Fouts, Young, Graham, and Griese.

So he has put himself in some elite company with his regular season performances, and in doing so, has elevated what have typically been otherwise bad teams into win-or-go-home positions where both he and his team have been hit-and-miss.

I don't like when people compare stats of today's QBs to yesteryear's. The game has totally changed and those stats are skewed in comparison. Nowadays, non-elite QBs pass for 5,000 yards (Stafford last season) and QBs who aren't that impressive when you watch them are posting 100+ QB ratings (RGIII). You have to compare QBs to the other QBs of today. Romo puts up numbers in the top quartile of the league's starting QBs. He consistently has his team playing at or around .500 ball. He's had some clutch performances and he's also had some historically un-clutch moments. Maybe you could argue statistically he's a top 8-10 QB. But he's definitely not a top 5 QB. And only 12 teams a year make the playoffs, so top 8-10 puts you in the Wildcard position. Romo is not elite, but he's still a good QB, and his clutch-factor is definitely in question. It is what it is.

JimboWHO · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by percyhoward

Who really knows? He played well in the one playoff win, and he has been outstanding in December and January the last three seasons.

He's already had the best year of any QB on a team that didn't have a winning record or go to the playoffs. That was last year.

This year, despite playing on a team with only three playoff appearances and one playoff win, he had his 6th consecutive Top 10 season in passer rating. There's no other QB in the history of football who has a record resembling that. In fact, now there are only 8 quarterbacks who have ever had more consecutive top 10 seasons than Romo: Their names are Montana, Manning, Brady, Dawson, Fouts, Young, Graham, and Griese.

So he has put himself in some elite company with his regular season performances, and in doing so, has elevated what have typically been otherwise bad teams into win-or-go-home positions where both he and his team have been hit-and-miss.

Yup, good enough to get you into big games and bad enough to lose 'em for you.

For all his fancy numbers playing 8 games a year in your friendly stadium, the big game, big stage face plants will haunt the franchise forever.

JJM

JimboWHO · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by muck4doo

That's where the gnats also put their season, despite Mara trying to cheat the Cowboys and Redskins with his spirit stuff. Have fun in Eli's pocket.

The guy who uncovered Jerry's cheating is accused of 'cheating' !

Silly Cowboy fan logic.

Take your medicine like a man.

JJM

muck4doo · 12-31-2012

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Originally Posted by JimboWHO

The guy who uncovered Jerry's cheating is accused of 'cheating' !

Silly Cowboy fan logic.

Take your medicine like a man.

JJM

Cheated what? Mara's make believe spirits?

btcutter · 12-31-2012

Let say for the sake of argument that we won last night and made it to the playoffs.

Next week comes Seattle who will probably beat us. They simply have a much better team especially with our JV defense out there and no starting WRs.

Romo still would have not won a playoff game. And he still would be crucified.

If fact, let's say we get lucky and got past Seattle and end up playing "put team name here" and losses. Romo still would not be clutch and still would be crucified again.

Fact is unless Romo actually wins a SB, he will always be.....just another QB.