You really want to see a team?

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

Anyone who is honest KNOWS that we never put Aikman in the position Romo has been in,....never asked him to do near as much as we ask Romo to do with clearly inferior talent to what Troy had. Simple reason Norv didnt ask Troy to do those things,......he KNEW that Troy couldnt. Put Troy in this exact offense with the same players around him Tony has and the same playcaller in Garrett and he fails in a big way.

Dont get me wrong,...not bashing Troy at all,....but no way he does as well as Tony in the same situation. In fact....wouldnt even be close.

Great. Well he had a future HOF WR, the best oline in football and the future all rushing leader. WE aint got any of that.

[Clove]

Originally Posted by zrinkill

Wow ..... we agree on something.

Maybe there is hope yet.

I like Lovie, and moving back to a 4-3. I was listening to Gil Brandt on a Mickey Spagnola show, and Gil was saying, we should be running the 4-3 with the personnel we have. So yeah..

[Avenging Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Canadian BoyzFan

Great. Well he had a future HOF WR, the best oline in football and the future all rushing leader. WE aint got any of that.

Exactly. Thats exactly what I am driving at. Troy had all those things and yet Norv STILL never put Aikman in the kinds of horrible positions that Garrett puts Romo in all the time.

Norv understands that Offense is about BOTH the passing game AND the RUNNING game. Not just one.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Clove

I like Lovie, and moving back to a 4-3. I was listening to Gil Brandt on a Mickey Spagnola show, and Gil was saying, we should be running the 4-3 with the personnel we have. So yeah..

Yep. Sean Lee at middle linebacker with two defensive tackles in front of him to keep lineman off of him would be out frikkin standing. Bruce Carter would be amazing as a strongside backer. I fully believe Spencer would do very well at the other outside backer spot. Spencer has always been very good against the run.

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

Exactly. Thats exactly what I am driving at. Troy had all those things and yet Norv STILL never put Aikman in the kinds of horrible positions that Garrett puts Romo in all the time.

Norv understands that Offense is about BOTH the passing game AND the RUNNING game. Not just one.

...because it wasnt the best option. So if not putting the ball in Romo's hands...who are we expecting to take us to the SB?

Please....we are so flawed.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Canadian BoyzFan

...because it wasnt the best option. So if not putting the ball in Romo's hands...who are we expecting to take us to the SB?

Please....we are so flawed.

IMO Garrett is a cheap version of Mike Martz as a playcaller. Cheap because at least Martz actually accomplished a few things in his career, including winning a Superbowl. Garrett has not.

Jason Garrett is married to throwing the ball,.....doesnt seem to matter the down or distance or situation either. Ive had enuff of it,....its unsound football,...plain and simple.


Norv Turner simply does not call an unsound offense. He is balanced.

[Avenging Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Canadian BoyzFan

...because it wasnt the best option.

Exactly! Now your getting it!

[RS12]

Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

Retain Garrett as head coach. Bring in Norv as new PLAYCALLING O.C,....Bring in Lovie Smith as D.C.


Folks saying Norvs Offense doesnt put up the big numbers anymore are talking out of theyre head. This year he dealt with a poor O line and MAJOR loss of offensive talent. Go look up San Diego's offensive output the last 5 years as a whole....Outstanding!


Lovie would also bring back the 4-3 cover 2 which has REALLY stood the test of time. Lots of turnovers too.


I'd bet about anything we get Turner. Think its almost a foregone conclusion. Lovie? The chance is almost nill. Although I would love to see it happen.

Rebuild the O line and BOOM..... Contenders. LEGIT contenders that is.

Negative. Never gonna happen with this staff and roster.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

Yep. Sean Lee at middle linebacker with two defensive tackles in front of him to keep lineman off of him would be out frikkin standing. Bruce Carter would be amazing as a strongside backer. I fully believe Spencer would do very well at the other outside backer spot. Spencer has always been very good against the run.

If we went 4-3 spencer becomes expendable imo. Id invest the money needed to resign him into a pass rushin de.

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed

IMO Garrett is a cheap version of Mike Martz as a playcaller. Cheap because at least Martz actually accomplished a few things in his career, including winning a Superbowl. Garrett has not.

Jason Garrett is married to throwing the ball,.....doesnt seem to matter the down or distance or situation either. Ive had enuff of it,....its unsound football,...plain and simple.


Norv Turner simply does not call an unsound offense. He is balanced.

Norv has done nothing to help Rivers who suffers from the same problems Romo does. Romo DOES NOT FIT the system Jason and Norv run, why do so many people not get this?

[Avenging Hayseed]

Here is a post I made on another board,...with the cuss words deleted!...LOL My bet is millions of Cowboys fans across the country all thought the same thing!


..." True story.......


We have the ball on about our own 27, all of our time outs left,....about 3 minutes and 15 seconds left in the game.


I looked at my family and I STRESSED.......NOW,....I want to see us mix in QUITE A BIT of the run on this drive. Run clock,...either score the winning touchdown or at very least kick the tying field goal but leave no time on the clock.


But heres the thing.....I KNEW they wouldnt do THAT. I mean afterall,....why the frick would they? Its not In Garretts M O. THEY NEVER FRIKKING DO! EVER! Why would they start now, season on the line or not.

So what do they do? Sure as #### they come out in hurry up mode,.....romo gets fooled and throws the pick. Game over. Sooooooooooooooooo f@##@ dumb! Just so dumb. I mean really,...both starting receivers hurt,....but WTH,....Lets fling it around anyway with no receivers and right into the teeth of the blitz that we havent stopped all night.


Did Romo make a dumb throw? Sure he did. BUT WTH KEEP putting him in that situation . On the road, crowd noise, no receivers so the d can really Key up. Just plain forking stupid. 3:15 is a frikkin eternity! Im all for keeping Garrett another year but can WE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get an OC in here thats understands the forking value of a running game? PLEASE!!!!!!! ....."

[dez_for_prez]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Norv Turner.
Lovie Smith.
Bill Callahan

3 ex-coaches.

Tell me again why Jason Garrett needs to be here? What is so special about Jason Garrett that he is worth building a coaching staff like that to get him over the hump?

Lovie had Rod Marinlli, Mike Tice and Martz. That must be why he got fired.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by lqmac1

Lovie will get another head coaching job. Norv is meh. Don't care if we get him or not.

This. This talk is fantasy. Lovie should be hired as HC if anything and get HIM a real OC.