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Old 12-31-2012   #31
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Trade them both (Rat and Austin) for whatever pick you can get, they are not worth keeping.
Probably won't get much for either of them. And if you trade them, you take the whole cap hit in one year. Can't spread it out over two like you can with June 1 cuts.
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Old 12-31-2012   #32
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they said specifically that Thoughts on austin around the organization isnt a pretty picture. And when they talk about Wrs with the coaches for instance with dez they always talk about his love for the game and nothing of the sort when topic goes to austin. Spounds like once he got the money he lost his desire
That was my own personal feeling on him to be honest.

And not to describe him as some bum for sure, but he doesn't seem to be one of those guys you really count on. More Alvin Harper than Michael Irvin. Seems all too happy now to run second banana to Dez Bryant as long as the money is coming in.

You're going to have to poney up the money for Bryant anyway, may as well take it from what Austin is making, unless the cap money doesn't add up.


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Don't we still have another 10 million cap penalty from Mara getting his panties in a wad?


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But if somehow we cut Ratliff, and most likely Spears is gone. So our DL is Hatcher, Lissemore, and Crawford. Exciting.
Hatcher is a FA and most likely gone as well
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Old 12-31-2012   #35
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I don't get that from Austin. He didn't go all out and start buying things after he got paid.

he's just been injury prone, been that way since the beginning.
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Don't we still have another 10 million cap penalty from Mara getting his panties in a wad?
$5M in 2012 and $5M in 2013.


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Hatcher is a FA and most likely gone as well
Jason Hatcher is under contract for 2013.

Kenyon Coleman is a free agent.

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Hatcher is a FA and most likely gone as well
Hatcher will be 31 next year. If he is willing to resign for a hometown discount on a reasonable contract the Cowboys should sign him, but it shouldn't be more than 3 year deal with minimal guaranteed money.
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$5M in 2012 and $5M in 2013.




Jason Hatcher is under contract for 2013.

Kenyon Coleman is a free agent.
Yea I thought I read Hatcher was a free agent as well? Is he no longer a free agent?
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Hatcher is a FA and most likely gone as well
wow. thats not good.
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Yea I thought I read Hatcher was a free agent as well? Is he no longer a free agent?
Jason Hatcher signed a 3 year, $6M free agent contract prior to the 2011 season once the Lockout was over.

2013 is the final year of the deal.

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Ill say it right now, Ratliff wont be on the team in 2013.
I said that several weeks ago.
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He would be a 6million hit against the cap if he is cut. That will be strong motivation for him being on the team.


...and he KNOWS that which is why he's been pouting ever since he "chewed out" his boss. What a colossal clown this guy turned out to be....can't stand the sight of him. From 7th rounder off the scrap heap, to MULTI millionair to malcontent: the fall has been sharp, swift and pitiful. Thanks for nothing "JRAT"..................btw.........ple ase STOP with the trade talk: no one wants this loser and is laughable contract that Al Davis Jr. gave him....Free, JRat and Smiles Austin and their agents all hoodwinked Al JR.-three worst deals in pro football
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Also talked about Austin. Said people they talk to in in the organization dont paint a pretty picture of Austin. Think he might be gone too.
Austin is very overpaid for his production
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Should we look to this as some sort of clue? I mean, who else here saw Ratliff at a malcontent a year ago and before? Really? I actually remember an interview where he seemed visibly upset that they'd been losing games.

Something just doesn't feel right. Not that he can stay around acting this way and not that he had been earning his money, but it just doesn't feel right to me. Ratliff was always a force and player for us and didn't have this kind of problem with the team.

It's almost like he finally got fed up with JJ's crap and said you know what, I want off of this team that has an invasive owner and keeps coming up short.

I'm not excusing his actions. If you get in the owner's face, you're cut in my mind, but I'm just looking deeper in to this.
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You can't cut Austin. His contract is far too cap friendly for another team to simply cut.

Dallas has already taken the brunt of the hit for that contract and still has 5M in dead money because of it.

Guaranteed another team would be more than willing to take that contract on.
Austin is a #3 WR at best, not a #1 or #2. I'll take him back only if he happily agrees to play #3. Otherwise I tell his agent to look for a deal that restructures his deal in a re-sign and trade; otherwise he stays as the #3 or rides the pine.
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