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01-01-2013
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#76
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NFL Historian
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You guys still don't understand that a comparison is not equivalent to "same as".
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01-01-2013
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#77
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A Mere Flesh Wound
Joined: | May 2007 |
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JG Coaching experience.
Miami QB coach 2005-2006 under Nick Saban HC
Dallas Offensive Coordinator 2007-2010 under Wade Phillips HC
Dallas Head Coach 2010-Present
So there you have it...
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01-01-2013
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#78
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Senior Member
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This guy isn't Bill Walsh, he isn't some offensive genius creating a new form of passing attack ! He can't make simple, 8th grade level decisions when the game is in motion. His poor play calling left points, easy points, sitting on the field in this game.
Look, he seems like a great analyst for NFL.com or ESPN, he can speak and break the plays down but when it is crunch time on the field, when it is time to make the easy calls, to lead men he fails.
It is a hard thing to do, to be on such a stage and perform in front of millions, not easy at all, but he can't do it. It isn't a bad thing, most people can't do what a great coach does, but at some point you recognize the guy isn't up to the task and get someone in there who can. He will keep making the same dumb errors because he is arrogant and weak under pressure. This is not a good combination.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. - Aristotle
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01-01-2013
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zman5
This from a guy who got schooled by an average defensive coordinator missing 4 of the starters.
JG had no answer for what Haslett was doing last night. None. What an arrogant clown.
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Not taking up for JG because I refuse to. BUT Dallas doesn't have the players to counter what the Skins defense was doing.
Haslett brought the house time and time again. There was nothing Dallas could do about it and he knew it.
We need a better line plain and simple.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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01-01-2013
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#80
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_in-NC
Not taking up for JG because I refuse to. BUT Dallas doesn't have the players to counter what the Skins defense was doing.
Haslett brought the house time and time again. There was nothing Dallas could do about it and he knew it.
We need a better line plain and simple.
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So it took an entire season for opponents to figure out that Dallas didn't have anything that could stop such an attack?
Not buying it.
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01-01-2013
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#81
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
So it took an entire season for opponents to figure out that Dallas didn't have anything that could stop such an attack?
Not buying it.
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No other teams did it. The Skins were desperate and took a shot. It worked.
I don't think other teams didn't figure it out, I think most just thought they could beat us straight up. Most did for fifty minutes of our games.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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01-01-2013
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#82
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_in-NC
No other teams did it. The Skins were desperate and took a shot. It worked.
I don't think other teams didn't figure it out, I think most just thought they could beat us straight up. Most did for fifty minutes of our games.
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I'm pretty sure a number of teams hammered Dallas up the middle last year.
New England specifically.
I think it was just poor countering on the Dallas staff.
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01-01-2013
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#83
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2008 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Disturbed
JG Coaching experience.
Miami QB coach 2005-2006 under Nick Saban HC
Dallas Offensive Coordinator 2007-2010 under Wade Phillips HC
Dallas Head Coach 2010-Present
So there you have it...
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So ... he's an offensive minded coach that has only coached under defensive minded head coaches?
So...he's a head coach but only had 5 years of coaching experience, on any level, before taking the hc job for the Cowboys?
If you were a GM and someone came to you with that resume would you hire them as your hc?
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01-01-2013
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#84
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdwells1
So ... he's an offensive minded coach that has only coached under defensive minded head coaches?
So...he's a head coach but only had 5 years of coaching experience, on any level, before taking the hc job for the Cowboys?
If you were a GM and someone came to you with that resume would you hire them as your hc?
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Red Ball needed more experience before becoming a HC in the NFL. We have watched his mistakes and inexperience cost us.
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01-01-2013
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#85
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Location: | Earth |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by birdwells1
So ... he's an offensive minded coach that has only coached under defensive minded head coaches?
So...he's a head coach but only had 5 years of coaching experience, on any level, before taking the hc job for the Cowboys?
If you were a GM and someone came to you with that resume would you hire them as your hc?
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Ozzie Newsome would. He's one the best GM's in the league.
I'm still waiting for your response by the way. It's actually hilarious how you're avoiding it.
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01-01-2013
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#86
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by a_minimalist
Ozzie Newsome would. He's one the best GM's in the league.
I'm still waiting for your response by the way. It's actually hilarious how you're avoiding it.
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Which question are you referring to?
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01-01-2013
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#87
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Run-loving Dino
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | 1-star thread |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_in-NC
Not taking up for JG because I refuse to. BUT Dallas doesn't have the players to counter what the Skins defense was doing.
Haslett brought the house time and time again. There was nothing Dallas could do about it and he knew it.
We need a better line plain and simple.
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Why wasn't there anything he could do about it? The play where Romo got blasted and probably got a rib broken was a relatively simple DB blitz where the rusher came completely free. It was not a case of a bad OLman or even a bad RB getting beat by a superior rusher. We didn't even put a body on him. It was a pure scheme/recognition problem, plain and simple.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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01-01-2013
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#88
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Why wasn't there anything he could do about it? The play where Romo got blasted and probably got a rib broken was a relatively simple DB blitz where the rusher came completely free. It was not a case of a bad OLman or even a bad RB getting beat by a superior rusher. We didn't even put a body on him. It was a pure scheme/recognition problem, plain and simple.
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You still have to have personnel to make the correct decisions don't you?
Who on that line would be starting for any one else this season? Smith?
They are castoffs for a reason. Free is just useless unless you think picking up Romo after he gets killed is a skill.
Now if you want to blame JG for thinking these guys could play, go ahead.
I'm right there with you.
We tell the team we have to move on from success" JG Oh how they have done that.
I know that when we do not have the kind of success, when we don't have expectations lived up to, the one that should get the most heat is the one that ultimately makes the decisions, period, with the Dallas Cowboys. And that's me."
Jurrha "Smack" Jones
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01-01-2013
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#89
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2010 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Why wasn't there anything he could do about it? The play where Romo got blasted and probably got a rib broken was a relatively simple DB blitz where the rusher came completely free. It was not a case of a bad OLman or even a bad RB getting beat by a superior rusher. We didn't even put a body on him. It was a pure scheme/recognition problem, plain and simple.
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A better line would help. A better player caller would help too. I think the hope is a better line would help mask Garrett's bad scheme and playcalls, much like Romo helps to mask the mistakes too, except when he gets leveled and makes mistakes knowing he will probably take a whole lot more pounding as the game progresses.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. - Aristotle
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01-01-2013
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#90
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The Instant Classic
Years Donated 2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
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It was entirely predictable, but I'm still surprised, somehow, that Jason Garrett has become so much the focus of some fans' frustration after his QB went out and threw three picks that lost us that game. I understand the emotional reaction to lash out at the head coach when a season ends, but that WAS game was about as clear an example as you're going to get of a QB not playing well enough to win.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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