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Old 01-01-2013   #76
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YR, great thread. The statistical approach to looking at season to season, in perspective, for all teams, is always interesting.

And what you're saying about JG is almost exactly what I've suspected about him as a head coach. Right now, he's a much better HC during the week than he is on game day, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. You can tell that he's changed the way the organization has done things, and, yes, you can tell that we're acquiring more talent each of the last two off seasons. He already has 'put it on tape,' though what he's put on tape isn't exactly what people wanted to see. They want to see the victories at all costs, and we've had enough issues crop up (some holes in the roster initially, and then significant injuries on top of some of the bandaids we had in place this season) and it's made that challenging. But you can see what he's doing. And you can see some of the results already. It's going to get better.

I've said this before, but I recommend anybody who enjoys mocking the 'process' mantra pick up one of the various John Wooden. What Garrett's doing is pretty much direct from Wooden's playbook, philosophically. The quotes from the press conferences that get under people's skin, the focus on process, repetition, finding the right kind of players, focussing on the execution of the play and not the game, all of it is straight from John Wooden. I'd hope understanding where it comes from would take some of the vitriol out of some posters' takes on JG. Like with any coach, there are going to be some people who just never like him, but it's obvious what the guy believes in, and he's doing a great job instilling it in his team and expressing it to the press. We'll find out next year if it's going to work in today's NFL or not. I still think, wholeheartedly, it will. I'm glad to see some validation of that in your OP, even if the source from the organization needs to remain anonymous.
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And he is trying to implement the PROCESS in unique conditions in Dallas with JJones as owner GM
I think we can all recognize that there is a Jerry Jones effect he has to deal with
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I still cannot believe fans defend or have faith in Garrett.
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I still cannot believe fans defend or have faith in Garrett.
Hope, it is all you have with such mediocrity.

Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. - Aristotle
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But Idgit, poll every coach of every team in America at every level, and how many wouldn't claim they believe in Wooden's principles? Practically none. So what makes Garrett so special when he says it?

Every coach wants to do basically the same things. Every coach wants its team to play hard, to limit mistakes, to execute properly. What matters is if can actually get his team to do it. Same as with players... I bet Mark Sanchez wants to do the same things Tom Brady does, but that doesn't mean he can do it. Take even Garrett's own career as a player -- he probably preached the same principles for success as Troy Aikman, but he wasn't 1/10 the player.

It's a production business, not a cliche preaching business. Or at least it's supposed to be.
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Hope, it is all you have with such mediocrity.
Yea you're right. I just see the same FAIL every year from this guy.
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But Idgit, poll every coach of every team in America at every level, and how many wouldn't claim they believe in Wooden's principles? Practically none. So what makes Garrett so special when he says it?

Every coach wants to do basically the same things. Every coach wants its team to play hard, to limit mistakes, to execute properly. What matters is if can actually get his team to do it. Same as with players... I bet Mark Sanchez wants to do the same things Tom Brady does, but that doesn't mean he can do it. Take even Garrett's own career as a player -- he probably preached the same principles for success as Troy Aikman, but he wasn't 1/10 the player.

It's a production business, not a cliche preaching business. Or at least it's supposed to be.
Of course every coach is going to say it. Not every coach is going to parrot it, though, at every opportunity.

I'm not saying Jason Garrett is going to end up like John Wooden, just because he's saying things that come from a John Wooden book. I'm saying it's clear what JG believes in, and, because of that, you can see why he handles situations and press conferences and how he's approaching building this team the way he does.

He might not end up able to accomplish winning at that level, because he might just not end up being a very good coach in the long run. But the guy really does believe the stuff he's saying. I can't understand hating the guy for what he believes in, and I don't see any good reason to believe he's not being genuine with what he says when he gets up to talk about how he approaches running the team.
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Ok then what is the answer? Fire him and then what?
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So Washington should have fired Shanahan after his second year?
Sure he has more of a resume but you could argue without Elway he was mediocre
Now with some players he is riding a hot streak into the playoffs as nfceast champ
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