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Old 01-01-2013   #136
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Danny White, Tony Dorsett, Drew Pearson, Tony Hill, Doug Cosby, Billy Joe Dupree, Pat Donavan, Herbert Scott, Tom Rafferty, " Too Tall " Jones, Randy White ( my hero), Harvey Martin, Everson Walls, Charlie Waters, Dennis Thurman, Jim Jeffcoat, Hershel Walker..

None won anything after 1977, most went to a SB and lost, and subsequently, started declining after 1980..


Coach Landry should have been fired because he wasted all that talent.
Look, I'm one of Garrett's biggest supporters, and I'm convinced he is going to be a great coach, but this one is a little unfair.

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I can't argue with that. Luck and timing play a factor in a lot of successes, especially outside of the NFL. It's not just within the league. I do think you could replace talent with intelligence in that statement though. But, yes luck and timing play a role as well.

Well, let me put it this way:

Are the Patriots any less talented than when they won 3 SBs in 4 years ? Is " Billycheat " dumber now than he was then ? Or is it the fact that in both SBs he's lost it came down to, pretty much, one mind blowing pass and catch in each one ?
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" Everything in the NFL has an element of talent and a dose of good fortune and timing. "
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Look, I'm one of Garrett's biggest supporters, and I'm convinced he is going to be a great coach, but this one is a little unfair.

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It is unfair. Coach Landry had been the headcoach of the Cowboys ( at that point ) for 21 great years.. Garrett has been in charge for barely 2 1/2. Saying that Garrett is " wasting talent " because the team has failed to win the ultimate prize so far is ridiculous.
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" Everything in the NFL has an element of talent and a dose of good fortune and timing. "
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It is unfair. Coach Landry had been the headcoach of the Cowboys ( at that point ) for 21 great years.. Garrett has been in charge for barely 2 1/2. Saying that Garrett is " wasting talent " because the team has failed to win the ultimate prize so far is ridiculous.
Oh, I'm with you completely on the impatience shown toward Garrett. My only point is that 3 NFC Championship games in 5 years is hardly wasting talent.
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I personally don't give a **** what Garrett has to say. He's part of the problem here with JJ and Romo.They are all cancers to me. Garrett's offense has been here 6 years and it's still sloppy and inconsistent. How long should we wait for him to figure out just how to run a proper offense? Let alone be a head coach.

A knuckle head coach, coaching a knuckle head QB, from a knuckle head GM.

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I personally don't give a **** what Garrett has to say. He's part of the problem here with JJ and Romo.They are all cancers to me. Garrett's offense has been here 6 years and it's still sloppy and inconsistent. How long should we wait for him to figure out just how to run a proper offense? Let alone be a head coach.

A knuckle head coach, coaching a knuckle head QB, from a knuckle head GM.
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Well, let me put it this way:

Are the Patriots any less talented than when they won 3 SBs in 4 years ? Is " Billycheat " dumber now than he was then ? Or is it the fact that in both SBs he's lost it came down to, pretty much, one mind blowing pass and catch in each one ?
I'm embarrassed for you.

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Coming from someone who every year predicts a Super Bowl, and supports every dumb idea this franchise tosses at you. You would be an easy target for a salesman.

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Did he really say they have handled the pressure well all season? They have had almost no answer for pressure the last FIVE years. A 5 yard hitch to Witten is not handling the heat, you have to make them pay or they will keep coming after you. They dont so teams keep coming and coming, living with the 5 yard hot reads knowing that Romo is going to melt down and make a critical mistake eventually.


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Seems GMs/owners are sticking with coaches a bit longer these days and I understand that as longs as you are SURE that your coach is the right guy. I'm not so sure about JG because of the following concerns...
- He has not shown improvement in the team or his skills from last yr (still 8-8), still major game management issues
- Even though he seems to be a "player's coach" the Cowboys lack the type of coordinators or team leaders that can offset this weakness. (No Ray Lewis types)
JG does not create fear to make players accountable and play with intensity. He uses all these "gentlemen" tactics which don't particularly work when the objective is to have your players tear the head off of the opponent.
- He's over his head trying to run the team AND the offense when he's just a green inexperienced HC who is learning on the job.
- His offensive approach is not a good fit for the cowboys personnel and it is dated. (Run oriented base set with weak OL)
- I could go on but I'll leave it here for now
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