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01-02-2013
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Federal Agent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmesix
Haslett: We're going to blitz you until you beat it.
Garrett: We're going to rely on our weak protection to pick up the blitz so we can burn you downfield.
Where were the draw plays, the screens, the quick slants that take advantage of overagressive defenses?
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I recall us running ONE screen pass (to a WR) and it was a type of screen we've never been efficient at running.
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01-02-2013
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#17
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmesix
Haslett: We're going to blitz you until you beat it.
Garrett: We're going to rely on our weak protection to pick up the blitz so we can burn you downfield.
Where were the draw plays, the screens, the quick slants that take advantage of overagressive defenses?
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Garrett doesn't take pressure off of his oline. I had this complaint all year.
He's fine with teams tee'ing off on us and does not call plays to slow them down.
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01-02-2013
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#18
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Intramural Legend
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Location: | Canandaigua, NY |
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Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan
Its a sad reality, and all we can do is hope he gets better. Meanwhile we get to read from the Pro Red crowd how he has changed the culture and has everything in the process moving in the right direction as he builds the foundation for a 20 year Tom Landry like run of success.
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Changing the culture and being a good coach don't have to be mutually exclusive, and in this case, I don't think they are.
This team has a different feel than it has in years past, even if execution and focus weren't always there.
I think JG can be a very good HC, but he's not right now, and he never has been a good OC. With another football mind in their calling plays, this team could seriously fly imo.
The fact that JG tries to beat the blitz with big plays, and not quick developing ones to consistently beat it is just a microcosm of his whole approach. He has 0 patience for letting things develop, not just in a play, but in a game. A run game, even if it isn't super effective, can wear a defense down to open things up in the fourth quarter and can be backbreaking later. He abandons it constantly once we get down a score. It's the same way with the passing game, it seems like he just wants to get big plays down the field, rather than be content with moving the chains.
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01-02-2013
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#19
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1st Round Pick
Years Donated 2010, 2011, 2013
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Listening to Broadus on Talking Cowboys and he is saying the middle of the field was wide open the hole night and we kept trying to pass to the sideline over and over.
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01-02-2013
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#20
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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You are discounting...
Quote:
Originally Posted by gimmesix
Haslett: We're going to blitz you until you beat it.
Garrett: We're going to rely on our weak protection to pick up the blitz so we can burn you downfield.
Where were the draw plays, the screens, the quick slants that take advantage of overagressive defenses?
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...one huge advantage the Skins had that day.
It was on display for all to see, but quite frankly was ignored by the media and almost all of the posters on this forum.
London Fletcher.
This guy was a onfield DC for the Skins. I don't ahve all-22 film, but I would be real interested to hear from the guys who do have access on the bait and switch alignments he and Haslett devised as ongoing game adjustments.
I was really impressed with the ones I could catch.
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01-02-2013
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#21
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Zone Scribe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Listening to Broadus on Talking Cowboys and he is saying the middle of the field was wide open the hole night and we kept trying to pass to the sideline over and over.
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That's pretty much obvious given all the double A gap blitzing they were doing. Ideally you have Austin working the slot and Witten working the seam, but Austin was taken out of the game early and Witten was having his lunch eaten by an equally smart London Fletcher in coverage.
We got get to an athletic move tight end more involved in the offense next year (ie Hannah), and finally Garrett has to move on from his Ogletree love affair and bring in/develop non intellectually challenged WRs who can play multiple WR positions and who consistently knows his hot reads.

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.
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01-02-2013
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#22
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quite frankly...
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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
Witten was having his lunch eaten by an equally smart London Fletcher in coverage.
We got get to an athletic move tight end more involved in the offense next year (ie Hannah), and finally Garrett has to move on from his Ogletree love affair and bring in/develop non intellectually challenged WRs who can play multiple WR positions and who consistently knows his hot reads.
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...Fletcher had an amazing game yesterday along with the rest of the Skins defence.
Ogletree and Harris had chances to step up, but they didn't.
We need to let Ogletree go. He can't play STs particularly well and he can't be trusted to be where he is suppose to be.
With a porous o-line Ogletree is a liability.
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01-02-2013
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#23
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Senior Member
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Talked with my dad about the game the day after. He is not a Cowboys fan, but not a hater either. I bet he doesn't even know Garrett's name, so there is no agenda. His take, "What was up with the play calling? The guy can't call some screen passes to slow up the blitz?"
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01-02-2013
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#24
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Waitin' on the 6th
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Garrett doesn't take pressure off of his oline. I had this complaint all year.
He's fine with teams tee'ing off on us and does not call plays to slow them down.
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I hate when we have short yardage and he bunches the offensive line up and goes two TE's, full backfield.
That just makes it that much harder to gain the short yardage, especially with the monster sized players in today's NFL.
We don't have the OL studs to do this.
We need to spread the Defense out and hope to find a crease.
But no, we cram it all up in the middle and run into a brick wall. Sometimes Murray bounces it out a little and finds something with second effort, but most times we get stuffed.
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01-02-2013
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#25
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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We do have...
Quote:
Originally Posted by WV Cowboy
I hate when we have short yardage and he bunches the offensive line up and goes two TE's, full backfield.
That just makes it that much harder to gain the short yardage, especially with the monster sized players in today's NFL.
We don't have the OL studs to do this.
We need to spread the Defense out and hope to find a crease.
But no, we cram it all up in the middle and run into a brick wall. Sometimes Murray bounces it out a little and finds something with second effort, but most times we get stuffed.
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...a short yardage option. It's Cole Beasley, but something happened to him and we rarely saw him again after he got dinged up.
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01-02-2013
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#26
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Waitin' on the 6th
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidyee
...a short yardage option. It's Cole Beasley, but something happened to him and we rarely saw him again after he got dinged up.
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I would always rather run in short yardage situations, .. just spread it out first a little bit, ... and don't have the QB turn and walk back 5 yards before handing it to the RB, who now has to get 6 yards to get the first down instead of 1.
That drives me crazy !!
In short yardage, the QB should just hand the ball to the RB as he runs by the QB going full speed, hitting the hole going full blast.
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01-02-2013
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2010 |
Posts: | 1,256 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
That's pretty much obvious given all the double A gap blitzing they were doing. Ideally you have Austin working the slot and Witten working the seam, but Austin was taken out of the game early and Witten was having his lunch eaten by an equally smart London Fletcher in coverage.
We got get to an athletic move tight end more involved in the offense next year (ie Hannah), and finally Garrett has to move on from his Ogletree love affair and bring in/develop non intellectually challenged WRs who can play multiple WR positions and who consistently knows his hot reads.
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This is correct. Miles catching slants from the slot is a good high percentage way to beat a blitz. Throwing go routes off of the back foot is a very low percentage way to try to win. The Redskins had the equivalent of Danny MrCray's at safety and we did nothing to attack them.
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01-02-2013
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#28
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Maple Leaf
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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I was a caller on...
Quote:
Originally Posted by WV Cowboy
I would always rather run in short yardage situations, .. just spread it out first a little bit, ... and don't have the QB turn and walk back 5 yards before handing it to the RB, who now has to get 6 yards to get the first down instead of 1.
That drives me crazy !!
In short yardage, the QB should just hand the ball to the RB as he runs by the QB going full speed, hitting the hole going full blast.
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...Emperor's show with Couchscout and I posed this question.
Missing in Garrett's arsenal is a reliable run game.
The Cowboys don't have to run for 300 yards to win the game. The Skins do with their rookie QB.
But the Cowboys with a balanced running attack and Romo with time and 8 men in the box could punish any NFL defence.
If the Cowboys could roll out a consistent 125 yard rushing game I think the season and this past game would have been much different.
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01-02-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2009 |
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Being serious, besides the Giants game, how many games did we have a double digit lead? I think the Ravens but we gave that up quickly.
Garrett never has this team prepared at all. We are usually always flat in the 1st half and seemed to play the best at the end of the game when we are in a hurry up and Romo is calling the plays. Garrett is a horrible playcaller.
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01-02-2013
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2004 |
Location: | Wisconsin Penal |
Posts: | 1,960 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17
Listening to Broadus on Talking Cowboys and he is saying the middle of the field was wide open the hole night and we kept trying to pass to the sideline over and over.
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For those who have the ability to see the all-22 footage, this is not an isolated incident.
Jerry Jones....Selling mediocrity and excuses to the fans since 1997.
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