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01-02-2013
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#46
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Originally Posted by popp1234
Yawn...whatever!
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Most of the high stats for Romo come from his driving the ball down the field quite frequently then unable to finish the job. A FG or no points at all. So he accumulated some great stats on the drive with very little if any results team wise. A majority of his TDs were just gunslinging away when we were down by 10-20 points. Yes Romo was the reason we won a number of games but he was also the reason we lost a number of games. Yes he put up great stats but still our record was only 8-8. Romo is just not a finisher on a consistent basis, never has been never will be. You live by the gun and you die by the gun.
Do not extend Romo. Our next QB is Blake Bortles at UCF--6-4, 221. Great arm and ran for 8 TDs. He will be coming out in next years draft-2014.
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01-02-2013
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#47
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Originally Posted by Joe Rod
All great points. They have been asking Romo to be Brady/Manning for too long and it simply does not work. Tony Romo would be fine if they ever decided to make a running game and an offensive line a priority. Romo has only played with one 1,000 yard rusher in his career (Julius). Great that it works for Brady, Rogers and Brees, but Dallas will never reach the Superbowl like that and Romo will end up as nothing more than this generations' Dan Fouts (who had a HOF level beard).
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Two back-to-back great posts. The first from Yazuka Rich. The second above.
Well-done, gentlemen. 
"Jason Garrett will have the Cowboys in the NFC Championship Game within three years." - Tyke1doe, August 19, 2011
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01-02-2013
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#48
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Top ten QB in stats that for whatever reason are not translating into wins. I'd gladly trade Romo and all his stats in for a QB with lessor stats and some playoff wins.
Jerry Jones....Selling mediocrity and excuses to the fans since 1997.
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01-02-2013
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#49
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
Right, being the 22nd rated passer in the league screams "franchise QB."
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Yes numbers scream the 10th rated is a 'franchise QB'.
Stafford threw for 5000 yards and 40 TDs last year and almost 5000 this year but yes let's conveniently ignore those.
Get this through your head: Romo is not a franchise qb as of this current date just because he has numbers. You completely missed the point but that's ok i'm bringing it back for you.
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01-02-2013
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#50
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Originally Posted by HowAboutThemCowboys
Top ten QB in stats that for whatever reason are not translating into wins. I'd gladly trade Romo and all his stats in for a QB with lessor stats and some playoff wins.
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Such as...?
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01-02-2013
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#51
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Originally Posted by Galian Beast
It's easy to blame the QB. Even when everything else is gone to crap, the QB is always an easy target.
We couldn't run the ball, and we couldn't stop the run... nor could we stop the short/intermediate pass... that's not conducive to winning football games.
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I think you guys are missing the point.
Yes, the Cowboys aren't a very good team. But what does that have to do with missing a receiver on a blitz? Good quarterbacks routinely make such plays in the face of a blitz. Aaron Rodgers practically dared the Vikings to blitz this weekend.
And what about air mailing a "punt" to the Redskins on 2nd and 5 at the Redskins 49 yard line? That has nothing to do with the defense or the running game. Romo had time to eat lunch in the back field, and he just chucks it up for an interception.
And we won't talk about the third interception.
So it's not just the fact that Romo doesn't have a good team. It's the fact that he doesn't make good decisions in those moments when it's not someone else's screw-up.
"Jason Garrett will have the Cowboys in the NFC Championship Game within three years." - Tyke1doe, August 19, 2011
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01-02-2013
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#52
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Originally Posted by mldardy
Stafford threw for 5000 yards and 40 TDs last year and almost 5000 this year but yes let's conveniently ignore those. 
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Passer rating takes that into account.
You've got your answer, plain and simple. Stafford was the 22nd most efficient QB in the league in 2012, that's why he didn't go to the Pro Bowl.
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01-02-2013
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#53
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Originally Posted by HowAboutThemCowboys
I'd gladly trade Romo and all his stats in for a QB with lessor stats and some playoff wins.
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So you think teams that have QB with lesser stats have playoff wins because of their QB?
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01-02-2013
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#54
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Take us where? Not to the playoffs? We can have Matt Casell or any other bum out there do that.
This has been beaten to death. We get it. He has nice numbers. But that's all they are. Numbers. And empty numbers to be more precise. They have gotten us nothing. He has proven season after season when the lights get the biggest and brightest and we need him at his best, he fails. Constantly.
And it's not even just his interceptions that kills us. It's his inaccuracy. Missing open targets way too often and a lot of the times, the ball isn't even close.
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01-02-2013
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#55
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
Passer rating takes that into account.
You've got your answer, plain and simple. Stafford was the 22nd most efficient QB in the league in 2012, that's why he didn't go to the Pro Bowl.
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OK bottom line is Romo isn't a franchise qb.
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01-02-2013
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#56
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Originally Posted by Blackspider214
Take us where? Not to the playoffs? We can have Matt Casell or any other bum out there do that.
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Explain how a QB who was ranked 25th and 32th the last two seasons is going to take a team to the playoffs, that a QB who was ranked 4th and 10th could not.
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01-02-2013
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#57
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The Stat King! Timmy Chang of the NFL 
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01-02-2013
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#58
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There is only two ways to win a championship. A QB that puts up big numbers and gets things done in the clutch (Rogers) or a QB with a solid team around him that does just enough to get you a first down through the air sometimes but depends on a stellar defence and a running game to get the heat off him (Eli Manning or Rothlesberger).
Romo needs a running game and he would be very effective. Trying to ask him to do it himself won't get it done. I look at Romo like I look at Dan Fouts. A QB thats good enough to put up numbers and win some games but is a heart breaker come crunch time. If those late 70's/early 80's San Diego teams had somewhat of a defence and a halfway decent running game they would have won the big one.
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01-02-2013
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#59
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Originally Posted by Fastphilly
I look at Romo like I look at Dan Fouts. A QB thats good enough to put up numbers and win some games but is a heart breaker come crunch time. If those late 70's/early 80's San Diego teams had somewhat of a defence and a halfway decent running game they would have won the big one.
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There are only eight QB with more consecutive seasons than Romo among the top 10 rated passers:
13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
Fouts is the only one who was never on a championship team.
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01-02-2013
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#60
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
There are only eight QB with more consecutive seasons than Romo among the top 10 rated passers:
13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
Fouts is the only one who was never on a championship team.
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In other words.
Odds are FAR greater if you have a QB that puts up good stats year after year that you will win a SB than having a QB that does not do that.
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