FA QB X: 33 yo, league leader in picks. No playoffs in 3 years. Would you sign him? - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

CowboyStar88 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

This team doesn't have the offensive line to throw a rookie in there off the back. Not only that, but rookie qb's simply aren't ready to just come in and contribute. I don't care what Russell Wilson and RGIII are doing. What they are doing is PHENOMENAL and is a credit to how great they are at what they do. But I HOPE people don't belittle what they are doing by assuming anybody can do what they do. That's not the case at all.

I wasn't referring to just them. I am talking about the general success that other rookie QB's have had over the last few years. Also FA does start before the draft and there are players that are solid in their prime players that can be signed. I just don't get this thought process that we can't bring in youth and that we are in a win now mode. I get ware is getting up there and witten is getting up there. People are speculating that rat/miles could be gone. So who else is really getting up there in age? I would rather build a team that is going to compete for the next 5-10 years and not just one or 2. We've seen that fail before.

blackbull · 01-03-2013

The way some of you are so afraid to lose Tony is funny considering how Jerry gets bashed for holding on to something for too long. We could take Aaron Murray in the 2nd round this year and have him start for us and go 8-8 or better.lol Give me a break.

rocyaice · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88

I wasn't referring to just them. I am talking about the general success that other rookie QB's have had over the last few years. Also FA does start before the draft and there are players that are solid in their prime players that can be signed. I just don't get this thought process that we can't bring in youth and that we are in a win now mode. I get ware is getting up there and witten is getting up there. People are speculating that rat/miles could be gone. So who else is really getting up there in age? I would rather build a team that is going to compete for the next 5-10 years and not just one or 2. We've seen that fail before.

Oh i'm for bringing in youth. Even if it is a qb. The Cowboys need to draft the best player available. It doesn't matter what position it is. Draft the best player available. But I believe whoever they draft should be Romo's backup until he is ready or until Romo is no longer with us.

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Originally Posted by blackbull

The way some of you are so afraid to lose Tony is funny considering how Jerry gets bashed for holding on to something for too long. We could take Aaron Murray in the 2nd round this year and have him start for us and go 8-8 or better.lol Give me a break.

Did you see how we went 8-8 though? It was Romo carrying this team and BIG GAMES. But I forgot that its only a "big game" when Romo loses......

blackbull · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

Oh i'm for bringing in youth. Even if it is a qb. The Cowboys need to draft the best player available. It doesn't matter what position it is. Draft the best player available. But I believe whoever they draft should be Romo's backup until he is ready or until Romo is no longer with us.

Did you see how we went 8-8 though? It was Romo carrying this team and BIG GAMES. But I forgot that its only a "big game" when Romo loses......

Romo didn't carry anything. We were down in a lot of those games BECAUSE OF HIM.lol Just because he led us back I'm supposed to bow to him? Please. What big games this year did he carry the other poor 52 players on the roster?

CowboyStar88 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

Oh i'm for bringing in youth. Even if it is a qb. The Cowboys need to draft the best player available. It doesn't matter what position it is. Draft the best player available. But I believe whoever they draft should be Romo's backup until he is ready or until Romo is no longer with us.

Did you see how we went 8-8 though? It was Romo carrying this team and BIG GAMES. But I forgot that its only a "big game" when Romo loses......

Like you said to me in the other thread don't be like those guys on ESPN with the BIG GAME only if Romo loses. That simply isn't the case. Did Romo play well for a stretch of games? Yes he did as did Dez and I would even venture to say that if it weren't for the play and dominance of Dez this team wouldn't have won some of those games. However you can't ignore the 1-6 record in win or go home games. I just have a problem with thinking that we can't do better then 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 if this team drafts a QB and plays him. Can it really be any worse? I mean missing the playoffs for 3 straight years is ugly. It's no better then the campo 5-11 years either. If he was 25-27 we wouldn't be having this convo but at the age of 33 and this is the body of work you are putting together I would think there is a serious problem.

rocyaice · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by blackbull

Romo didn't carry anything. We were down in a lot of those games BECAUSE OF HIM.lol Just because he led us back I'm supposed to bow to him? Please. What big games this year did he carry the other poor 52 players on the roster?

We were down because of him? The defense gives up points and we were down because of him?

And I never said bow down to him. I'm just simply pointing out the double standards you guys have. We blame him for losses but he gets no credit for the wins? And i'm not even one of Romo's biggest supporters. But I can't escape what my eyes saw in December with our season on the line. I just can't.

rocyaice · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88

Like you said to me in the other thread don't be like those guys on ESPN with the BIG GAME only if Romo loses. That simply isn't the case. Did Romo play well for a stretch of games? Yes he did as did Dez and I would even venture to say that if it weren't for the play and dominance of Dez this team wouldn't have won some of those games. However you can't ignore the 1-6 record in win or go home games. I just have a problem with thinking that we can't do better then 6-10, 8-8, 8-8 if this team drafts a QB and plays him. Can it really be any worse? I mean missing the playoffs for 3 straight years is ugly. It's no better then the campo 5-11 years either. If he was 25-27 we wouldn't be having this convo but at the age of 33 and this is the body of work you are putting together I would think there is a serious problem.

Its not about if it can get any worse though. Could a rookie qb come in here and get us 87 wins? Maybe. I'd like to think not but maybe it is possible. But you could also argue that if Romo had a better offensive line and a better running game he would've generated more than 8 wins for us this year. You just can't win in this league with a poor offensive line and inconsistent defensive line play. And factor in your depleated defense? Its just not possible.

Before this year everyone told me that Romo doesn't show up in December. Now its he doesn't show up for big games. I'd be willing to part with Romo. I'd be fine with it if I felt like he was holding this team back and he was the sole reason we weren't making it in the post season. But i'm not convinced this team is putting Romo in position to get us to the post season.

blackbull · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

We were down because of him? The defense gives up points and we were down because of him?

And I never said bow down to him. I'm just simply pointing out the double standards you guys have. We blame him for losses but he gets no credit for the wins? And i'm not even one of Romo's biggest supporters. But I can't escape what my eyes saw in December with our season on the line. I just can't.

Against NY, Atlanta, etc. How many times does the defense have to stop a team or hold them to fgs before Romos offense can get some points? Yes they were down because of him when they constantly have pathetic 3 and out drives. I'll go back to lurking on here and reading other people try to talk sense into you Romosexuals. I was with all of you until that sorry *** final drive in DC.

rocyaice · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by blackbull

Against NY, Atlanta, etc. How many times does the defense have to stop a team or hold them to fgs before Romos offense can get some points? Yes they were down because of him when they constantly have pathetic 3 and out drives. I'll go back to lurking on here and reading other people try to talk sense into you Romosexuals. I was with all of you until that sorry *** final drive in DC.

"Romosexuals"....yea I think lurker mode is probably best if that's the best you can come up with lol.

CowboyStar88 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by rocyaice

Its not about if it can get any worse though. Could a rookie qb come in here and get us 87 wins? Maybe. I'd like to think not but maybe it is possible. But you could also argue that if Romo had a better offensive line and a better running game he would've generated more than 8 wins for us this year. You just can't win in this league with a poor offensive line and inconsistent defensive line play. And factor in your depleated defense? Its just not possible.

Before this year everyone told me that Romo doesn't show up in December. Now its he doesn't show up for big games. I'd be willing to part with Romo. I'd be fine with it if I felt like he was holding this team back and he was the sole reason we weren't making it in the post season. But i'm not convinced this team is putting Romo in position to get us to the post season.

I would agree with most of what you said. But like I said above if he was 25-27 then fine lets keep rolling and hope that whatever the disconnect is works itself out. However we are talking about a 33 year old QB he isn't a spring chicken. All I heard all year last year was how deep this class is at QB. Now to hear some talk they act like its garbage. Not buying it and when the combine comes around and pro days come around and the senior bowl happens then I think you will see it heat up again. I just think that after the last 3 years and his play in the final game the last 2 years just leaves a lot to be desired especially watching these young QB's over the last few years come in and have success. At 18 I think you take the risk and draft a QB if the value is there.

**Idgit** · 01-03-2013

Only a fool wouldn't sign a free agent Tony Romo. By whatever name. Only frustration or ignorance would keep anybody from saying otherwise.

Hoofbite · 01-03-2013

Stupid thread.

Lets pretend July 1st there's a 29 year old WR hasn't been to the playoffs in three years and he's available.

Would you sign him to a big contract?

If his name is Miles Austin, probably not.

If his name is Larry Fitzgerald, you'd be an idiot not to try to.

The idea that anyone would simply look at age and playoff appearances without looking at other factors such as how good the team is in first place is just ridiculous.

burmafrd · 01-03-2013

we REALLY need an IQ test before allowing posting here on the Zone.

Mansta54 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by KB1122

Let's take the name "Tony Romo" out of it.

Suppose there was another 33-year-old quarterback coming off a year in which he led the league in interceptions. He hasn't been to the playoffs in three years. He has won one playoff game in his entire career.

Would you sign that quarterback to a five-year deal?

You sure did leave out a lot of info in describing this player with no name. This player has a ton of accomplishment that you conviently ignore to fit your agenda.

Lodeus · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by burmafrd

we REALLY need an IQ test before allowing posting here on the Zone.

I agree.