HC candidate X: Back to Back .500 Seasons, Only Prev Exp Is QB Coach: Do you hire him

[Zordon]

If Jason Garrett never played for the Cowboys but every other part of his makeup and resume is the same, would he be getting as much leeway as he's getting with some in the fanbase?

[Hostile]

If Jerry were to fulfill the wet dreams and fire Garrett he wouldn't be out of work as a HC for more than a few days. So the answer is yes.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Zordon

If Jason Garrett never played for the Cowboys but every other part of his makeup and resume is the same, would he be getting as much leeway as he's getting with some in the fanbase?

He would from me. I see what is being built.

[Doomsay]

If Garrett's team "development" was at all successful, we wouldn't have back to back 8-8 seasons given our level of talent. We are not much better than we were 2 years ago when Jason took over. We have improved our canned pressers and our guys are more outwardly courteous in public forums, but the team is still an undisciplined and sloppy mess IMO.

I doubt Garrett could get anything other than a QB assistant gig at this point, which speaks volumes about his suitability for being HC of the Cowboys. If Jason is serious about learning the position, he should seek out a HC or OC opportunity at a small DIV I program, he's been paid a ridiculous fortune to learn on the job in Dallas, it's time that he banks the proceeds from Jerry's mistake and steps back and learns in an environment where the game is a little slower and easier to understand.

[Chocolate Lab]

Of course not. This has always been the case. His draw has always been 1) the Ivy League degree, and 2) carrying Troy's clipboard during the Glory Days.

If a person with the exact same coaching resume had been a career backup for the Panthers and had gone to Eastern Idaho, people would feel completely different about this candidate.

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by Hostile

He would from me. I see what is being built.

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

[Dodger12]

This is priceless. If JG was fired today, no one would hire him as an OC, let alone a HC. I could see him getting a job as QB coach and even then that would be a gift since I can't think of one QB he helped develop. Even Baltimore feels like they dodged a bullet when JG turned the job down.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Zordon

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

I don't look at his playing days at all.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by Dodger12

This is priceless. If JG was fired today, no one would hire him as an OC, let alone a HC. I could see him getting a job as QB coach and even then that would be a gift since I can't think of one QB he helped develop. Even Baltimore feels like they dodged a bullet when JG turned the job down.

Bull ....

[visionary]

Originally Posted by Dodger12

This is priceless. If JG was fired today, no one would hire him as an OC, let alone a HC. I could see him getting a job as QB coach and even then that would be a gift since I can't think of one QB he helped develop. Even Baltimore feels like they dodged a bullet when JG turned the job down.

fact^^

no way he gets a HC job this year
he would be lucky to get an OC job

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Zordon

I think you're one of few. I believe Jason gets a lot of leeway from fans and Jerry b/c of his ties to the glory years. Some, myself included, romanticized about a former player returning and bringing some stability to the head coaching position. When I look at Jason Garrett I see a failed head coach but I also still see the 1994 Thanksgiving Game and the Glory Years. To my fault, I cannot separate the two at times.

You're not alone.

I've seen plenty of fans with the same sense of fondness and nostalgia and I've seen how it overrides the reality of what is actually happening.

[stasheroo]

Originally Posted by Dodger12

This is priceless. If JG was fired today, no one would hire him as an OC, let alone a HC. I could see him getting a job as QB coach and even then that would be a gift since I can't think of one QB he helped develop. Even Baltimore feels like they dodged a bullet when JG turned the job down.

The absolute truth.

For anyone to think that he would be scooped up like some 'hot commodity' is laughable.

If he were fired today, I would have serious doubts that he would ever be a head coach again, much less have it happen immediately.

[IAMKING]

Originally Posted by Hostile

He would from me. I see what is being built.

A mediocre team woo hoo. Get ya popcorn ready

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by stasheroo

The absolute truth.

For anyone to think that he would be scooped up like some 'hot commodity' is laughable.

If he were fired today, I would have serious doubts that he would ever be a head coach again, much less have it happen immediately.

One of the biggest Jason Garrett fans in the NFL...Bill Belichick. Per Tedy Bruschi. Take that for what it is worth.

Upset fans are simply wrong about him and this will be proven.

[MagicMan]

Wow, the Garrett koolaid drinkers here seem to see something in Garrett that is just based on hope and wishful thinking. Although I would love it if he was that boy genius we all thought, there is no evidence from his past of any success or even hint of success at the coaching level, YET.

I think Jerry saw Garrett as the next Sean Payton---but Payton had actually 8 years asst in the college ranks and then 7 years assistant in the NFL before he even got the Saints job. Garrett is no where close to that and is coaching already, little wonder why he is not up for the job. He is learning right now and wasting away our best player's careers as we speak.

Well hopefully we'll find our QB in the 2020 draft so that Garrett can kick off his training wheels and put his incredibly high football IQ into play and start assembling the team of the 20's . Hopefully some of us will be around to enjoy it, and this is why Jerry is getting cold feet right about now.