FA QB X: 33 yo, league leader in picks. No playoffs in 3 years. Would you sign him?

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Because of the QB or because the Cowboys don't have a coaching staff would can adapt the offense to the players on the field?

I'm not so sure the Washington OL was anything great either.

I am MIGHTY impressed with the coaching job the Shanahans (Dad and Son) did taking the talent they had and working those pieces into an offense that was perfect for them.

Washington has a horrible OLINE, mostly inept receivers, and a horrible pass defense (ranked 30th) in the league. RG3 being as elusive as he is has hidden their Oline problems.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

He certainly wasn't performing like a HOF QB in 1998 or 1999 (or anytime after 1995, for that matter). Seems like his HOF play was directed correlated to the level of supporting talent around him. Imagine that. I know Cowboy Fans have now rewritten history and Troy Aikman retired immediately after the 1995 season, but it's not really so ... he played for five seasons after that.




[View Full Quote]I guess it comes down to how you define a big game. Thanks to the slow start, the Cowboys have been pretty much been playing in "must wins" and "big games" since November, but now the Bengal and Steeler games have been suddenly been deemed meaningless. This is what happens when you have a team completely and utterly dependent on a QB playing 7-8 game stretches without a clunker, and you've set yourself up for a thin margin of error. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of my lifetime, if not in NFL history (IMHO), but that's precisely why he's spent most of his career being called a choker, why he's only won 1 Superbowl Ring and didn't win it until his 9th season in the league. He hasn't been afforded the luxory of winning a division playoff game where he goes 9-18 for 100 yards

A new offense and too many hits in the head was Troy's problem in those years.

I don't see the Bengals or the Steelers as good teams or big wins. Romo is going to have to come through in do or die games like the Redskins game or he will always beba choke artist. He has dropped too many of these games and won only a couple. He is what he is until he proves different.

[InmanRoshi]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

I'm not so sure the Washington OL was anything great either.

Shanny's zone stretch run system has shown time and time again they don't need great physical talents. He plugged a lot of late round no names into his system in Denver. That's the appeal of the zone blocking system.

The downside is that it takes a long time with the same unit to develop the cohesion and continuity needed to run the system well. Shanny didn't just waive a magic wand and make the Washington running game instantaneously good. This was LT Trent Williams 3rd consecutive year as a starter under Shanny in Washington. LG Kory Lichtensteiger 3rd straight year as a starter under Shanny in Washington, after being drafted and playing under him in Denver. C Will Montgomery's 3rd consecutive year as a starter under Shanny in Washington. RG Chris Chester's 2nd year as a starter under Shanny. RT Tyler Polumbus first year in Washington, but previously drafted and spent two years under Shanny in Denver, and another year running the same scheme under Alex Gibbs in Seattle.

Dallas just started the first year of implementation of the zone blocking system, had 3 new faces play as their main weekly starters, and started the season with new starters at all 5 OL positions. (I'll also add Washington was amazingly lucky on injuries to the OL).

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by DMAC

Since this is all speculation, how many games would we have won with RGIII? He is much more elusive than Romo, and can run for yards as well, so it would have to be more, right?

Good question.

Not sure RG3 was really available either though.

But we had no reason to sell the farm (if we even could have) to get him because Romo had just finished a truly outstanding, efficient season. He even played well in the last one and done vs the Giants while playing with a football-sized hand. He certainly was not why they lost anyway. So after 2011, his arrow was pointing up.

After 2012, maybe that has changed some. We'll see.

[InmanRoshi]

Originally Posted by jnday

A new offense and too many hits in the head was Troy's problem in those years

The new offense and too many hits to the head didn't stop him from putting up career highs in almost every statistical category in 1998 and 1999, yet he had his worst playoff performances those years. Did the concussions just magically kick in in January, or did he get more confused with the offense as the season went along?


I'll go with Occam's Razor and suggest maybe the reason Troy didn't perform as well in the playoffs those years is that when it came to playing against playoff caliber competition he was throwing to Billy Davis and Eric Bjornson rather than Alvin Harper and Novacek. And Emmitt was running for 4.2 ypc behind the OL instead of 5.3. And no "leadership" or "clutch ability" by Aikman overcomes that.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

The new offense and too many hits to the head didn't stop him from putting up career highs in almost every statistical category in 1998 and 1999, yet he had his worst playoff performances those years. Did the concussions just magically kick in in January, or did he get more confused with the offense as the season went along?


I'll go with Occam's Razor and suggest maybe the reason Troy didn't perform as well in the playoffs those years is that when it came to playing against playoff caliber competition he was throwing to Billy Davis and Eric Bjornson rather than Alvin Harper and Novacek. And Emmitt was running for 4.2 ypc behind the OL instead of 5.3. And no "leadership" or "clutch ability" by Aikman overcomes that.

So these years puts Romo on his level when Romo has never had the sucess that Troy had? If you are a stats man, you can make that argument. The only stat that matters is winning. Romo would have folded in the playoff games against the 49ers. He has done nothing in his career to hint that he would have thrived in the pressure situations that Troy faced. You never answered my question about the big games Romo has won. Can you give at least one example that he didn't fold? I listed the Saints game and one playoff game. There has to be more doesn't it? Will you place the blame on Romo where it is due? After all, all these interceptions in big games can't be his teammates fault. The fact is that Romo has not been clutch against the good teams in meaningfull games. He has earned the choker label until he does something to change it.

[Section444]

Originally Posted by KB1122

Let's take the name "Tony Romo" out of it.

Suppose there was another 33-year-old quarterback coming off a year in which he led the league in interceptions. He hasn't been to the playoffs in three years. He has won one playoff game in his entire career.

Would you sign that quarterback to a five-year deal?

Question about this QB... has he choked in virtually every big game he's played in his entire career?

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by Section444

Question about this QB... has he choked in virtually every big game he's played in his entire career?

Uh.
No