How would you evaluate Mo's 2012 season?? - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

dart · 01-03-2013

did not like the trade up for a AVERAGE CB

we lost out on some good O linemen

what we needed

not band aids like Livings and Birdenow

KLJ · 01-03-2013

i'll give him a "c". i expected more out of him but perhaps my expectations were just too high.

JBell523 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by dart

did not like the trade up for a AVERAGE CB

we lost out on some good O linemen

what we needed

not band aids like Livings and Birdenow

lol I was like lol

Future · 01-03-2013

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I expected more of a ballhawk, but I understand playing conservative with these safeties.

Teams hardly threw at him other than on short routes where its virtually impossible to attack the ball.

If Dallas can ever get quality safety play and keep Lee and Carter healthy to patrol the middle QBs will have to challenge our corners and we will see how good they really are. Claiborne will flourish if that ever happens.

Section444 · 01-03-2013

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I expected more of a ballhawk, but I understand playing conservative with these safeties.

That's not his game, never has been.

Zordon · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Illini88228

I would second that in a heartbeat. He did everything but get interceptions.

he did not tackle.

JBell523 · 01-03-2013

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Originally Posted by Section444

That's not his game, never has been.

We must have read different scouting reports.

Everything I came across said this guy had amazing ball skills and was pretty much like a WR at DB.

dcstands4 · 01-03-2013

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I would second that in a heartbeat. He did everything but get interceptions.

I agree, I wouldn't give him an A because of it but a "B". Like most said He's a rookie. The one thing I like about him is that he kept going FOR the ball. If he was trying to bring his man down or coming in for a gang takle he always went for the ball.

Also Rob Ryans system take a lot of learn I think he shows how smart he is to pick it up and not have to many bad plays, all things said he can only get better.

hra8700 · 01-03-2013

For a rookie? Outstanding. A for coverage, probably a C for tackling.

Looks like he'll be something really special.

LatinMind · 01-03-2013

The guy played ALOT better then the previous best CB in the draft in his rookie yr (patrick peterson)

Grade B

Zordon · 01-03-2013

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The guy played ALOT better then the previous best CB in the draft in his rookie yr (patrick peterson)

Grade B

you think so? i was thinking about this a lot the last few days, comparing him and peterson. both lsu guys, both top picks in the draft. i prefer peterson's athletcism and size. he has almost 35 lbs on him and 2 inches. claiborne has to get in the weight room this offseason. he looked frail to me in training camp and he played like it to. he was a reluctant tackler all season and an average jam corner. i gave him a C+ for these reasons and the lack of playing making abilities...another reason why i prefer peterson. i think peterson in his first season had a lower floor but a higher ceiling than claiborne who was very consistent all season. i just expected more picks. it's disappointing to see two guys drafted after him (jenkins and hayward) surpass him in that category.

LatinMind · 01-03-2013

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you think so? i was thinking about this a lot the last few days, comparing him and peterson. both lsu guys, both top picks in the draft. i prefer peterson's athletcism and size. he has almost 35 lbs on him and 2 inches. claiborne has to get in the weight room this offseason. he looked frail to me in training camp and he played like it to. he was a reluctant tackler all season and an average jam corner. i gave him a C+ for these reasons and the lack of playing making abilities...another reason why i prefer peterson. i think peterson in his first season had a lower floor but a higher ceiling than claiborne who was very consistent all season. i just expected more picks. it's disappointing to see two guys drafted after him (jenkins and hayward) surpass him in that category.

peterson got abused his rookie yr

Zordon · 01-03-2013

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peterson got abused his rookie yr

you're right he was bad, particularly underneath similar to claiborne. but you could see the athleticism was there, he was very good on deep routes. i hope clai can make the jump this offseason like peterson did. he needs to become best friends with woicik. i think what really got my expectations up was the quote from jerry that he was the highest rated cb since deion.

dools · 01-03-2013

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That's not his game, never has been.

You are completely off base. He displayed great ball skills in college.

Goldenrichards83 · 01-03-2013

After giving this a great deal of thought, I would give him a overall grade of C. He wasn't physical against the run at all. He was pretty good in press coverage but in off coverage I think he struggled.

Case in point the Redskins were getting big gains running his side because he didn't support the run and most times the receiver had him blocked.

On Talking Cowboys Broaddus also brought up this point,