Garrett Has Had Full Autonomy Over the Offense For 6 Years

[Everson24]

Originally Posted by rags747

Jason's long ball Coryell offense needs a running game and an OL to work imo. All of these long routes when the other team knows that u cannot run the ball just does not fly.

If somehow we could add two studs to the OL, add a rb and actually start running the ball then this offense will work. Jason's offense is all based off of the 90's teams...BUT, they had an OL that took no prisoners and they had Emmit.

Elway did squat until the Broncs put together a running game with Davis. Until that time he was Mr Choke. Surprising how once he got a running game at the age of 37 or so he now wins TWO SB"s. Romo can do the same...The man needs some help.

Best post I've read in a long time. I couldn't agree more. Romo is asked to do too much with a system that demands a running game and very good pass blocking.

[Gaede]

That's right, all Garrett needs to field a successful offense is an offensive line with 3 studs and a two stud RBs to go along with his stud WR, stud QB, and stud TE.

And then when those additions fail to make an impact, it'll turn out that Garrett needs to collect a stud FB to truly make his glorious offense a reality

[Trajan]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

He should have been a leader in our front office as the offensive coordinator?

That's rich.

The Offensive Coordinator had no input on FA or draft ? Then he should never have been made HC.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

Full autonomy means full autonomy until stated otherwise. That means he controlled everything about the offense. Not just the play calling, not just the game plans, but everything. Personnel included. To think that Garrett had "full autonomy" over everything BUT personnel is ridiculous beyond words, especially when he was Jerry's handpicked future head coach.

For God sakes, HIS BROTHER IS THE DIRECTOR OF PRO SCOUTING. But yeah, he had nothing to do with this personnel. Get out of here with that garbage. You want better players? Get better personnel people than the two families running this current crapshow.

Jerry wouldn't publicly say this if he wasn't trying to send a message.

I have to hand it to the Garrett lovers, to come up with the angle that he just inherited all the personnel on the offensive side of the ball the last 6 years and therefore he is not to blame for the offense sucking..........

thats pretty dam creative, I have to give them that.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by peplaw06

I haven't seen the quote from Jerry... But there's no way Garrett has had FULL AUTONOMY -- as an OC or as a HC.

If you think Garrett as an OC had the ability to trump a Jerry decision in the war room and pick say an OL over say a Jason Williams, then you're delusional. He may have input as to what personnel are brought in on offense, like Risen Star is saying, and likely more input since he's been HC. But full autonomy would mean he's got personnel control. No way he has control. I know Jerry's own quotes refute that idea.

Jerry said this in his radio interview, that Wade had nothing to do with the offense and that Garrett had full autonomy over the offensive side of the ball for the past 6 seasons.


Now you can choose to not belive this, but the guy signing the checks sure believes this.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

I didn't miss anything. I just understood what he meant.

He's had full autonomy over the offensive scheme and play calling over the last 6 years. He hasn't had full autonomy over the players within that offense.

This isn't me thinking. It's me knowing. And Jerry Jones would agree with me.

Then why is Jerry talking about bringing in a play caller if the main problem is personnel which Garrett is not responsible for?

If what you say is indeed true and the problem is the talent level, then why would there be any talk at all of a new play caller? Why would you need a new play caller if the problem has not been scheme or play calling?


Your conclusion makes no sense, there would be no talk of needing a new play caller to help Garrett out if Jerry thought the only problem was talent level. Clearly Jerry thinks there is a problem with the scheme/play calling.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

You'd have to really be clueless to think he's had full autonomy over the last 6 years.

This is fan rant at it's worst.

How is it a fan's rant if that fan is repeating what Jerry said in an interview word for word?


I see you are attacking the messenger and instead of the message, classic sign that you got no counter argument to make.


I dont blame you, not much ammo to defend Garrett with these days.

[Star4Ever]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

I'm struggling to find your point.

The fact remains anybody who blames Garrett for the shape of this OL is just wrong. It's fan frustration at it's finest. The fact that the two most to blame for it can't be fired doesn't make them innocent of the charges.

I find it hard to believe you can actually be as dense and clueless as your posts appear to indicate? Then again, it's just business as usual for you.

[Star4Ever]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Kosier and Columbo were stopgap plug in starters. You weren't building a future with them. Gurode, the last decent pick before Tyron, was pre-Parcells and 2003. He got old.

I'm not saying anything about the decisions the last couple of years. Clearly Garrett was a part of that. A significant part. I'm saying this OL didn't get in this shape off of the last two years. He inherited a complete mess and I know people don't want to hear it but you can not win consistently in this league when you lose the battle at the line of scrimmage every week on both sides of the ball like the Cowboys so often do. It just can't be done. That's where games are won or lost.

Payton, Gruden, Reid, Holmgren, Dungy. None of those guys would change a thing until the players are upgraded.

Actually Kosier and Columbo played very well for us for several years. Their play declined rapidly due to injuries. You can't plan for those. They happen.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by Gaede

That's right, all Garrett needs to field a successful offense is an offensive line with 3 studs and a two stud RBs to go along with his stud WR, stud QB, and stud TE.

And then when those additions fail to make an impact, it'll turn out that Garrett needs to collect a stud FB to truly make his glorious offense a reality

[Stryker44]

For your sake you should hope that its Garrett, NOT Jones that gets to pick the OC. I do think its alot to ask of a head coach these days to oversee the whole operation of the team and also call plays. Everything is so much more precise and specialized now. I think Jones idea is good but the players have to buy Garrett is on board and working with the play calling - and that its not a punitive measure by Jones.

I still have nightmares about Snyder hiring Sherman Lewis to call plays for Zorn mid-season in 09. It make him look like a lame duck and the players just stopped responding and quit on the season.

[the playmaker]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

He has not had full autonomy over the players picked for 6 years. He did not create this OL debacle.

This is a player issue. To blame the OC for 4 years and head coach for the last 2 is foolish.

this!!!!!

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Beast_from_East

Then why is Jerry talking about bringing in a play caller if the main problem is personnel which Garrett is not responsible for?

Did you just use Jerry Jones as some flawless decision maker who can't be questioned?

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Trajan

The Offensive Coordinator had no input on FA or draft ? Then he should never have been made HC.

I don't even want to try to understand that.

It's like discrediting a chef because he never farmed.

[Dave_in-NC]

Originally Posted by Stryker44

For your sake you should hope that its Garrett, NOT Jones that gets to pick the OC. I do think its alot to ask of a head coach these days to oversee the whole operation of the team and also call plays. Everything is so much more precise and specialized now. I think Jones idea is good but the players have to buy Garrett is on board and working with the play calling - and that its not a punitive measure by Jones.

I still have nightmares about Snyder hiring Sherman Lewis to call plays for Zorn mid-season in 09. It make him look like a lame duck and the players just stopped responding and quit on the season.

It wasn't Jones idea. He got the idea from Joe Gibbs.