There might only be 3 or 4 good O-lines in NFL

[Vinnie2u]

Denver Manning Factor, Houston, Minnesota and San Fran. All others are up and down or just suck.

[zack]

Originally Posted by Vinnie2u

Denver Manning Factor, Houston, Minnesota and San Fran. All others are up and down or just suck.

Don't forget New England. I have never seen a QB with more time to throw except when he plays the Giants.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by zack

Don't forget New England. I have never seen a QB with more time to throw except when he plays the Giants.

Umm, I can name a few more as well.

Washington
Seattle
Chiefs
Panthers
Saints
Bills
Etc.

There are good lines that didn't make it to the postseason.

[Blue Eyed Devil]

New Orleans has an amazing offensive line
Kansas City has a fine o-line
Seattle has a fine o-line
Minnesota's o-line is a fine o-line

I agree on the other poster's comment about New England. So we have 9 lines now that are well constructed. That's pretty normal for a position group consisting of 5 players. You'd probobly say there's 9 secondaries that are really good, or 9 WR corps that are deep.

It just speaks to how pathetic the Dallas o-line has been for so long that some fans just assume there's no such thing as a good o-line!

[EGG]

More flawed reasoning trotted out and shot full of holes,,,, but at least your girlfriend is a cutie.

[Clove]

A great defense usually penetrates a great offensive line. Plus, if you send more than they have to block, it's up to your QB to have the brains to get it to the open guy.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by EGG

More flawed reasoning trotted out and shot full of holes,,,, but at least your girlfriend is a cutie.

What kind of reply is this?

[cowboysooner]

Originally Posted by Vinnie2u

Denver Manning Factor, Houston, Minnesota and San Fran. All others are up and down or just suck.

Of the ones you listed, Houston is not great at right tackle and right guard. They can't block a big nose tackle and don't run right at all. Last year they were all world. Minnesota and Dallas could switch guards and neither team would notice. In fact livings would be the best of the bunch.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by cowboysooner

Of the ones you listed, Houston is not great at right tackle and right guard. They can't block a big nose tackle and don't run right at all. Last year they were all world. Minnesota and Dallas could switch guards and neither team would notice. In fact livings would be the best of the bunch.

I heard the guys on Talking Cowboys, and they all seemed to agree, say that Bernadeau was actually noticeably better than Livings. I was a little surprised to hear that, as my take was the same as yours.

As far as Houston, they ran right tackle 15% of the time and right end 11% of the time which was roughly on the NFL average of 14% and 9% respectively. In general, teams just run to the left and mid more often.

[ShiningStar]

and there are a bunch of fans who dont know how things work on a football team. also butt hurt and conspirascies.

[TheXFactor]

The one thing to keep in mind when talking about great o lines is that a great DL will usually beat a great OL, just ask the Patriots

[SultanOfSix]

Originally Posted by Clove

A great defense usually penetrates a great offensive line. Plus, if you send more than they have to block, it's up to your QB to have the brains to get it to the open guy.

Or maybe the QB to have a receiver adjust to a hot route, or a receiver to get open, or perhaps a coach to call a screen.

[EGG]

Originally Posted by TheCount

What kind of reply is this?

Just trying to make him feel good even though his OP is being demolished,,, but what's it to you?

[kidcrook]

Browns
Seahawks
Titans
Buccaneers

These quality NFL lines. Aside from the Seahawks, these teams could win with better QB play.

[jnday]

I really don't think there are that many good lines in the NFL, but that should be no excuse for the Cowboys not having one. The younger posters may not remember, but the older posters remember how good it was to have a line that could dominate a defense. The defense would know that a running play was called, but they couldn't do a thing to stop it.