We Saw Today What a Good OL Can Do For a QB and Team

[Mansta54]

Originally Posted by cajuncocoa

If only our coach was the one who decides who we get and who we pass up.

Oh I'm certain he has a major influence on who plays OL for him. If you think otherwise then you're fooling yourself.

[slomoxn]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

If the Packers win the SB with their absolutely pathetic OL and running back who was selling used cars 6 weeks ago, that will damage the "you need a running game" argument and that a great QB is worth 10x a great RB in the modern NFL game theory.

We'll see what happens. Personally, I don't think the Packers are going to get past the 49ers this week.

I don't really care if GB gets there or not but I think Rogers is a he'll of a qb, but if they do happen to get there behind that line and running game ROMO will catch he'll on this board. I don't want to see that honestly.

[DavidAK]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Foreskins and Seabags both have a running game so they have effective QB's.

2 rookie QB's in the playoffs getting rave reviews.

RG3 for the most part had all the time in the world. Sure he was hurt. Sure he didnt do a whole lot TODAY. It was the OL that got them to the playoffs. Same for Seattle.

Morris is from FAU in Boca Raton - its basically a community college. He wasnt some magical Shanahan find. He's running behind an OL.

The difference between these 2 teams and Red's Boys is the coaching and the OL.

First it was Bill Parcells; the game passed him by,Terrell Owens; he was a team cancer, then it was Wade Phillips; he was too soft and now it's starting to look like it's Jason Garrett..

There is always someone to blame. But you know who has been here since Bill Parcells? Tony Romo. Maybe he should get some blame. Sucks going through coaches and players to be right back in the same spot year after year. I hope they don't fire Garrett or Rob Ryan. As I hope they don't extend Romo. Let him play out the season and make him earn it. I'm not blaming Romo for everything but he sure gets a mighty pass around this forum.

[Oh_Canada]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

Good lines? I thought Wilson did a tremendous job despite being sacked 5 times...

Unreal...good olines my backside.

The Foreskins run the ball really well because of the threat of RGIII. The Seahawks cannot pass protect, they're lucky they have Wilson back there or they would have triple the sacks. True, the 'Hawks run the ball well but much of their success comes late because there defense keeps them in a lot of games affording them the opportunity to keep running Lynch.

There is nothing great about either offensive line, and if you're going to hold them up as gold standards as to how to build an oline you should look at the way they are composed. Plenty of FA's, late picks and waiver claims on both units, they've had the good fortune of both being pretty healthy all year as well.

[pancakeman]

Originally Posted by DavidAK

I'm not blaming Romo for everything but he sure gets a mighty pass around this forum.

Which forum are you reading?

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by pancakeman

Which forum are you reading?

I think you get a lot more diverse opinion of Romo on this forum. On other Cowboys forums, 75-80% hate him.

[dragon_mikal]

Originally Posted by DavidAK

First it was Bill Parcells; the game passed him by,Terrell Owens; he was a team cancer, then it was Wade Phillips; he was too soft and now it's starting to look like it's Jason Garrett..

There is always someone to blame. But you know who has been here since Bill Parcells? Tony Romo. Maybe he should get some blame. Sucks going through coaches and players to be right back in the same spot year after year. I hope they don't fire Garrett or Rob Ryan. As I hope they don't extend Romo. Let him play out the season and make him earn it. I'm not blaming Romo for everything but he sure gets a mighty pass around this forum.

Romo is going to be extended and Jason Garrett would be fired before Tony Romo was released. Don't know what Rob Ryan has to do with anything.

And this team was lost and confused at the QB position before Romo. The fact that Sean Payton wanted to take Romo with him to New Orleans is all the proof I need that Romo can get the job done. If Sean Payton thought Romo could do it I sure as hell do.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by pancakeman

Which forum are you reading?

Mind-boggling isn't it

[JoeyBoy718]

How is FAU basically a community college? They offer PhDs and have like ten different colleges. Do you know what a community college is? Anyway, FAU isn't a good football school but they are D-1. It's really no different than like schools that Chris Johnson and Tony Romo went to. I don't see how it's relevant. Alfred Morris is a very good running back. And don't say the Redskins have an amazing O-line. Did you see how Cousins had no time to throw?

[Gemini Dolly]

Originally Posted by dragon_mikal

Romo is going to be extended and Jason Garrett would be fired before Tony Romo was released. Don't know what Rob Ryan has to do with anything.

And this team was lost and confused at the QB position before Romo. The fact that Sean Payton wanted to take Romo with him to New Orleans is all the proof I need that Romo can get the job done. If Sean Payton thought Romo could do it I sure as hell do.

I wonder what Sean Payton thinks of Romo now.

[GoCowboysGo]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

There was an absolutely wonderful reaction in NFL front-office and coaching staffs this offseason.... they all looked at the crazy off the chart passing fireworks from last season and decided that the best counter balance to the beavy of 90+ QB ratings, 5000 yard passers, 40 TD throwers, etc is running the ball.

Last year I thought the league was going to hell and becoming the Arena league. I hated it.

I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE the fact that teams like the 49ers, Redskins, Seahawks, Vikings, and Texans all made it to the playoffs with big-time running games.

I'd be even happy if one of those teams (obviously not the Redskins) wins the Superbowl and proves it.

Post of the year!!!!!

No running, no winning. Can't be one dimensional in this league of great and committed coordinators.

[Zman5]

Originally Posted by DavidAK

First it was Bill Parcells; the game passed him by,Terrell Owens; he was a team cancer, then it was Wade Phillips; he was too soft and now it's starting to look like it's Jason Garrett..

There is always someone to blame. But you know who has been here since Bill Parcells? Tony Romo. Maybe he should get some blame. Sucks going through coaches and players to be right back in the same spot year after year. I hope they don't fire Garrett or Rob Ryan. As I hope they don't extend Romo. Let him play out the season and make him earn it. I'm not blaming Romo for everything but he sure gets a mighty pass around this forum.

You know who else has been here since Bill Parcells? JG as the OC. Parcells took us to the playoffs his first year with Quincy Carter as his QB and Troy Hambrick as his RB. This with a team that went 5-11 three seasons in a row. That team he took to the playoffs was devoid of talent.

And people tell me coaching doesn't matter .

[Zman5]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

If the Packers win the SB with their absolutely pathetic OL and running back who was selling used cars 6 weeks ago, that will damage the "you need a running game" argument and that a great QB is worth 10x a great RB in the modern NFL game theory.

We'll see what happens. Personally, I don't think the Packers are going to get past the 49ers this week.

When people bring this up, I always say, "Well how many A. Rogers is there in the world". It's not not like you can easily go out and get an Aaron Rogers.

Not every QB is as good. That's why you need a second option. That's the formula Washington, Seattle, 49ers, Houston used to get to the playoffs.

[da_whiz_kid]

Originally Posted by Zman5

When people bring this up, I always say, "Well how many A. Rogers is there in the world". It's not not like you can easily go out and get an Aaron Rogers.

Not every QB is as good. That's why you need a second option. That's the formula Washington, Seattle, 49ers, Houston used to get to the playoffs.

There is a lot to be said about scheme and execution. Green Bay has a lot of designed plays which make up for the poor line play and lack of running plays. Although I do think their RBs are not as bad as people think, I just think it's the way the offense is designed. With the being said, we are talking about Aaron Rodgers here.

Here, we run the Coryell offense, but more importantly a Coryell offense that is league wide known to be predictable. Coryell requires a good OLine, especially protection in the interior and a strong running game up the gut. Now if those are two basics you need to run the offense efficiently and you do not have those at your disposal, and you couple that with a predictable offense, you automatically set yourself up for failure, as you have now made it easier for other teams to game plan against your offense.

[Clove]

Originally Posted by Mansta54

Ahh a strong solid OL can make your coaching look a lot better. Just sayin!!

So where was that offensive line when BOTH QBs were under heavy pressure last night?

I guess you have to learn to play under pressure sometimes, what a concept.