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01-07-2013
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#16
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iPhotoshop
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Just talked about Jerry trying to get back in round 2 to draft in this past yrs draft. See you can want to get a spot but you have to have a trading partner
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01-07-2013
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#17
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iPhotoshop
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
even though you would have made the same choice. 
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lol funny isnt it.
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01-07-2013
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#18
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Apollo Creed
Everyone and their mother thought Smith was a safe, high upside, blue chipper. Dallas hadn't delegated any resources to the line in a decade, it was a good move.
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I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.
But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-07-2013
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#19
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iPhotoshop
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.
But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
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What theyre trying to get the caller to see is nobody knew he would be this good. And theyre right. And the caller agreed. so Poof goes ur argument
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01-07-2013
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#20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.
But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
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So you support hypocrisy?
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01-07-2013
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#21
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
even though you would have made the same choice. 
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Yes. Even though I would have in some circumstances. Though not with Tyron and Watt.
I wanted to draft Felix Jones. The Cowboys drafted Felix Jones. The Cowboys made a bad draft pick. What I wanted is irrelevant. What the results are is what matters.
This pass the buck, nobody's responsible, group decision mentality doesn't fly.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-07-2013
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#22
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Originally Posted by LatinMind
lol funny isnt it.
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To some extent, in the end it does fall back to those running the team even if 100% of the fan based hollered to get a certain player. If that player does not pan out then it is on management.
I would say any fan who hollered and screamed to get a player and the team did so they really do not have much to complain about since they got what they wanted even though it is not their responsiblity.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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01-07-2013
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#23
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Originally Posted by CATCH17
So you support hypocrisy?
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No. I support a fan admitting he was wrong and criticizing his team for making a bad draft pick. They are held to a standard above fan.
What's the alternative? Just hope my team makes popular picks? Results be damned?
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-07-2013
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#24
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The Instant Classic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.
But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
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I agree. We all know the organization had access to information we didn't. They should make the right picks. It's their job.
And there's no denying that Watt's a better player than Smith is so far.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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01-07-2013
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#25
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Do I consider players I didn't want bad picks regardless of what they do on the field?
Their play on the field will dictate your final opinion on the decision to pick that player. To absolve the Cowboys decision makers based on a popularity poll at the time of the pick and not the results on the field is just pure, blind homerism.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-07-2013
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#26
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
Yes. Even though I would have in some circumstances. Though not with Tyron and Watt.
I wanted to draft Felix Jones. The Cowboys drafted Felix Jones. The Cowboys made a bad draft pick. What I wanted is irrelevant. What the results are is what matters.
This pass the buck, nobody's responsible, group decision mentality doesn't fly.
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Did not say that but to whine about a pick that you wanted because he does not pan out is pathetic. Yes management in the end was wrong about a player unfortunatly not all players do pan out even those whom draft pros think will be great. It is not a matter of passing the buck yes it is management who deserves the blame but piling on after the fact when they got the guy you wanted does not fly
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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01-07-2013
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#27
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The Instant Classic
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
Did not say that but to whine about a pick that you wanted because he does not pan out is pathetic. Yes management in the end was wrong about a player unfortunatly not all players do pan out even those whom draft pros think will be great. It is not a matter of passing the buck yes it is management who deserves the blame but piling on after the fact when they got the guy you wanted does not fly
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That gets back to tone. There's really never a need to whine about anything. But it should be ok to say, "I wanted this guy that the organization took, but the organization clearly made a mistake in taking him." Right?
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
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01-07-2013
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#28
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
I'm glad we took Tyron but that reasoning is idiotic. It's completely irrelevant what the fans thought at the time of the pick. Results are the only thing that matters.
Hey, we can't complain about our 1st round bust QB because we all wanted him at the time.
No. We can. You still hold the decision makers responsible for a bad pick.
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and? you can't know for a fact what a player will do over time. period. end of story. to get all butthurt years later cause of what you "could have had" without knowing at the time is just...
well i can't say it here cause it could offend.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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01-07-2013
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit
That gets back to tone. There's really never a need to whine about anything. But it should be ok to say, "I wanted this guy that the organization took, but the organization clearly made a mistake in taking him." Right?
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Getting a highly touted player is hard to claim that as a mistakes it is a calculated risk on any player.
You check out the players you do your homework and you make your choice.
Sure someone has to take the responsibility when the player does not work out but where they wrong for taking a player who graded out high throughout the league?
I can deal with that mistake than I can with over reaching for a player
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
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01-07-2013
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#30
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Federal Agent
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perrykemp
Which network carries the game? Do we know?
I could see Denver or Green Bay.
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If we play Denver it will be on CBS.
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