Go Back   Dallas Cowboys Forum - CowboysZone.com > Main Forums > Fan Zone

Cowboys Chat: 0 user(s) online


Home  |  Fan Zone  |  News Zone  |  Draft Zone  |  Off-topic Zone  |  Forum Rules  |  Chat  |  ** Change Graphics **

Reply
 
Display Modes Thread Tools
Old 01-07-2013   #16
LatinMind
iPhotoshop
 
LatinMind's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Posts:
5,684
Default

Just talked about Jerry trying to get back in round 2 to draft in this past yrs draft. See you can want to get a spot but you have to have a trading partner

Newest Wallpapers Dez|Cowboys Apocalypse
http://latinmind.deviantart.com/#/d5rkvym
Twitter
@CowboysRMX2011
LatinMind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #17
LatinMind
iPhotoshop
 
LatinMind's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Posts:
5,684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101 View Post
even though you would have made the same choice.
lol funny isnt it.

Newest Wallpapers Dez|Cowboys Apocalypse
http://latinmind.deviantart.com/#/d5rkvym
Twitter
@CowboysRMX2011
LatinMind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #18
Risen Star
Senior Member
 
Risen Star's Avatar
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Posts:
14,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Creed View Post
Everyone and their mother thought Smith was a safe, high upside, blue chipper. Dallas hadn't delegated any resources to the line in a decade, it was a good move.
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.

But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.

-


We'll settle this with a good dust up.
Risen Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #19
LatinMind
iPhotoshop
 
LatinMind's Avatar
 
Joined:
Mar 2005
Posts:
5,684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.

But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
What theyre trying to get the caller to see is nobody knew he would be this good. And theyre right. And the caller agreed. so Poof goes ur argument

Newest Wallpapers Dez|Cowboys Apocalypse
http://latinmind.deviantart.com/#/d5rkvym
Twitter
@CowboysRMX2011
LatinMind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #20
CATCH17
1st Round Pick
 
CATCH17's Avatar
Years Donated
2010, 2011, 2013
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Posts:
25,180
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.

But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
So you support hypocrisy?
CATCH17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #21
Risen Star
Senior Member
 
Risen Star's Avatar
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Posts:
14,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101 View Post
even though you would have made the same choice.
Yes. Even though I would have in some circumstances. Though not with Tyron and Watt.

I wanted to draft Felix Jones. The Cowboys drafted Felix Jones. The Cowboys made a bad draft pick. What I wanted is irrelevant. What the results are is what matters.

This pass the buck, nobody's responsible, group decision mentality doesn't fly.

-


We'll settle this with a good dust up.
Risen Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #22
Doomsday101
Senior Member
Years Donated
2011, 2012
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Houston, Texas
Posts:
70,348
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LatinMind View Post
lol funny isnt it.
To some extent, in the end it does fall back to those running the team even if 100% of the fan based hollered to get a certain player. If that player does not pan out then it is on management.

I would say any fan who hollered and screamed to get a player and the team did so they really do not have much to complain about since they got what they wanted even though it is not their responsiblity.
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
Doomsday101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #23
Risen Star
Senior Member
 
Risen Star's Avatar
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Posts:
14,779
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CATCH17 View Post
So you support hypocrisy?
No. I support a fan admitting he was wrong and criticizing his team for making a bad draft pick. They are held to a standard above fan.

What's the alternative? Just hope my team makes popular picks? Results be damned?

-


We'll settle this with a good dust up.
Risen Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #24
Idgit
The Instant Classic
 
Idgit's Avatar
Years Donated
2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Moar leadership!
Posts:
20,447
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
I agree. I said I'm glad we took Tyron.

But the notion that a fan can't complain about a pick if he initially supported it is complete nonsense. Results are all that matter.
I agree. We all know the organization had access to information we didn't. They should make the right picks. It's their job.

And there's no denying that Watt's a better player than Smith is so far.
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
Idgit is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #25
Risen Star
Senior Member
 
Risen Star's Avatar
 
Joined:
Jan 2006
Posts:
14,779
Default

Do I consider players I didn't want bad picks regardless of what they do on the field?

Their play on the field will dictate your final opinion on the decision to pick that player. To absolve the Cowboys decision makers based on a popularity poll at the time of the pick and not the results on the field is just pure, blind homerism.

-


We'll settle this with a good dust up.
Risen Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #26
Doomsday101
Senior Member
Years Donated
2011, 2012
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Houston, Texas
Posts:
70,348
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
Yes. Even though I would have in some circumstances. Though not with Tyron and Watt.

I wanted to draft Felix Jones. The Cowboys drafted Felix Jones. The Cowboys made a bad draft pick. What I wanted is irrelevant. What the results are is what matters.

This pass the buck, nobody's responsible, group decision mentality doesn't fly.
Did not say that but to whine about a pick that you wanted because he does not pan out is pathetic. Yes management in the end was wrong about a player unfortunatly not all players do pan out even those whom draft pros think will be great. It is not a matter of passing the buck yes it is management who deserves the blame but piling on after the fact when they got the guy you wanted does not fly
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
Doomsday101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #27
Idgit
The Instant Classic
 
Idgit's Avatar
Years Donated
2005, 2009, 2012, 2013
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Moar leadership!
Posts:
20,447
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomsday101 View Post
Did not say that but to whine about a pick that you wanted because he does not pan out is pathetic. Yes management in the end was wrong about a player unfortunatly not all players do pan out even those whom draft pros think will be great. It is not a matter of passing the buck yes it is management who deserves the blame but piling on after the fact when they got the guy you wanted does not fly
That gets back to tone. There's really never a need to whine about anything. But it should be ok to say, "I wanted this guy that the organization took, but the organization clearly made a mistake in taking him." Right?
When asked whether Jason Garrett is the right head coach for this team: "I don't think there is anyone else that could. I think he is an unbelievable coach. We've responded to him and he has made us better football players, better people. If you watch us I think we play with a certain relentless spirit." --Sean Lee
Idgit is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #28
iceberg
detoxed
 
iceberg's Avatar
Years Donated
2004, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
the colony
Posts:
26,509
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star View Post
I'm glad we took Tyron but that reasoning is idiotic. It's completely irrelevant what the fans thought at the time of the pick. Results are the only thing that matters.

Hey, we can't complain about our 1st round bust QB because we all wanted him at the time.

No. We can. You still hold the decision makers responsible for a bad pick.
and? you can't know for a fact what a player will do over time. period. end of story. to get all butthurt years later cause of what you "could have had" without knowing at the time is just...

well i can't say it here cause it could offend.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
iceberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #29
Doomsday101
Senior Member
Years Donated
2011, 2012
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Houston, Texas
Posts:
70,348
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Idgit View Post
That gets back to tone. There's really never a need to whine about anything. But it should be ok to say, "I wanted this guy that the organization took, but the organization clearly made a mistake in taking him." Right?
Getting a highly touted player is hard to claim that as a mistakes it is a calculated risk on any player.

You check out the players you do your homework and you make your choice.

Sure someone has to take the responsibility when the player does not work out but where they wrong for taking a player who graded out high throughout the league?

I can deal with that mistake than I can with over reaching for a player
Adrian Peterson: Playing in the NFL is like "modern-day slavery"
Doomsday101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2013   #30
Rack Bauer
Federal Agent
 
Rack Bauer's Avatar
Years Donated
2005
 
Joined:
Apr 2004
Location:
Fort Hood
Posts:
21,743
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by perrykemp View Post
Which network carries the game? Do we know?

I could see Denver or Green Bay.
If we play Denver it will be on CBS.
Rack Bauer is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© 2004-2012 CowboysZone.com