Lots of speculation RG3 has a torn ACL - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

kmd24 · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Idgit

If it was the ACL, it was probably partially torn to begin with, and they must have known that. Crazy that they let him risk that, no matter how big the games were.

You could tell by the way it buckled that it popped on him and it was going to be ACL.

It's also possible that he may have partially torn it on the play before the second TD. For sure it wasn't a stable joint by the time he got to his final play.

Yakuza Rich · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Stryker44

I never thought I would say it sucks to be NFC East champions, but that first place schedule for next season is looking like a curse right now where as with RGIII it would have been an opportunity.

I have been saying this since the Redskins loss.

Since 1999, only 47% of the division winners returned to the postseason the following year. That means if you win the division you are more likely to MISS the playoffs the following year than to make the playoffs.

This year was the most division winners to return to the playoffs since 1999 (6). Other than that, only once did more than 4 division winners return to the postseason since '99 (2003 division winners).

The system of the NFL creates parity. It makes it VERY difficult for almost EVERY division winner to return to the postseason. Between the tougher schedules, worst draft position, worse position on the waiver wire, teams focusing more on you, etc; it is difficult to be the division winner.

Dallas would have gone into the playoffs with all of those injuries and no Dez Bryant and probably no Miles Austin. All to lose and be put in a bad position for 2013.

It's possible to return to the postseason after winning the division, but at this point we don't have the personnel to do it and we need some breaks with better schedule and better draft position to make it work.

YR

Yakuza Rich · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by kmd24

It's also possible that he may have partially torn it on the play before the second TD. For sure it wasn't a stable joint by the time he got to his final play.

What's funny was Sal Paolantonio claiming his knee was getting healthier into the Seattle game.

Watching it on TV when he came out of the tunnel, I could see the knee hurting. It appeared to be hurting at first and then being okay as he kept running. Still, it was only a matter of time before he injured it.

That being said, nothing has been confirmed on the 14-18 month deal. But, if they are going for more tests, it sounds like they want a 2nd opinion and you don't get 2nd opinion's on a torn ACL.

YR

Aikmaniac · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by kmd24

It's also possible that he may have partially torn it on the play before the second TD. For sure it wasn't a stable joint by the time he got to his final play.

Didn't they take him back to the locker room after the second TD? How could they not know it wasn't stable?

The only thing I could think of was that they shot it up back in the locker room to get him through the rest of the game...which would be a high-level of negligence.

DFWJC · 01-07-2013

RG3 was hurting, but it was the hit that sent him to the sidelines that most likely ruptured the ACL. That was a nasty-looking hit.
For all we know, anything before that was just a player playing on a sore knee. Have to admit though, by the 4th quarter he was looking pretty bad. Two plays come to mind well several minutes before he really got hurt.

newlander · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I think so too. I watched the Shanahan PC on NFLN and it sounded to me like they're sending him to Andrews hoping it's not torn, but thinking it probably is.

Boy was that stupid of Shanahan yesterday. Why would he do that? I didn't get to see the game live, but it was obvious RG was seriously hurt after that early endzone pass where his knee buckled.

.......I wasn't ANGRY when he went down but I felt genuine empathy for the kid: Shanahan is a VETERAN NFL coach that's hired to know better in that situation. Players say LOTS of things to stay in a game...so do boxers...it sure as heck doesn't mean you listen to them. This is a colossal screw up by Shanny: an all timer really. He better hope Cousins can keep the train on the rails for however many games he's needed next season. I think he can: especially with that running game. But the bottom line is now RG's knee is compromised and weakened for the rest of his career when it didn't NEED to be. Stupid Shanny.

ONE OTHER QUESTION BOYS: is the right knee he hurt yesterday the SAME knee he hurt in college or was it the left one he tore while at Baylor? I didn't see him much in college: Thanks in advance...

pjtoadie · 01-07-2013

Looks like partial tears to the ACL and LCL

The MRI exam of Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III’s right knee suggested that Griffin has suffered partial tears of his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, according to several people with knowledge of the test results.
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Griffin is scheduled to be examined Tuesday in Pensacola, Fla., by orthopedic surgeon James Andrews to determine whether the test results show new or previous injuries.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-mri-suggests/

Stryker44 · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

I have been saying this since the Redskins loss.

Since 1999, only 47% of the division winners returned to the postseason the following year. That means if you win the division you are more likely to MISS the playoffs the following year than to make the playoffs.

This year was the most division winners to return to the playoffs since 1999 (6). Other than that, only once did more than 4 division winners return to the postseason since '99 (2003 division winners).

The system of the NFL creates parity. It makes it VERY difficult for almost EVERY division winner to return to the postseason. Between the tougher schedules, worst draft position, worse position on the waiver wire, teams focusing more on you, etc; it is difficult to be the division winner.

Dallas would have gone into the playoffs with all of those injuries and no Dez Bryant and probably no Miles Austin. All to lose and be put in a bad position for 2013.
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I hear ya. I'm envious of Seattle and St.Louis right now. They are in the position to build a model that is sustainable for years to come. Also like I said before, the NFC West has gone from where it took 7-9 to win the division 2 years ago to where now there are 3 teams that seem to be doing it the right way. Who ever would have thought.

Stryker44 · 01-07-2013

Couple questions:

1. If its a partial tear, does that cut down on recovery time?

2. If RGIII were to be on the IR for 2013 before the start of the league year, would he still count against the cap?

crazytown41 · 01-07-2013

Everyone keeps bringing up AD's quick recovery. Have you guys seen that dude? Kid is a freak of nature. Pretty sure genetics had something to do with it.

This will be RG3's 2nd torn ACL. I'll be shocked if he's back and ready by next season.

Eric_Boyer · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by Stryker44

Couple questions:

1. If its a partial tear, does that cut down on recovery time?

yes.

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2. If RGIII were to be on the IR for 2013 before the start of the league year, would he still count against the cap?

yes.

JonJon · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by pjtoadie

Looks like partial tears to the ACL and LCL

The MRI exam of Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III’s right knee suggested that Griffin has suffered partial tears of his anterior cruciate and lateral collateral ligaments, according to several people with knowledge of the test results.
Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan said Griffin is scheduled to be examined Tuesday in Pensacola, Fla., by orthopedic surgeon James Andrews to determine whether the test results show new or previous injuries.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-mri-suggests/

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Shanahan said at his news conference Monday at Redskins Park that he didn’t know the extent of the damage to Griffin’s knee or how long it will take the quarterback, who just completed his rookie season, to recover. Shanahan said it was unclear whether Griffin will play in the Pro Bowl, to which he was elected, or be ready to participate in the team’s offseason workouts and practices.

I'm no doctor or team executive, but I'm pretty certain that he will NOT be playing in the Pro Bowl.

bigE79 · 01-07-2013

Who cares...do you think a skins forum is all worried about Dez's back or Sean Lee's toe or any other injury the cowboys had? I doubt it

pjtoadie · 01-07-2013

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Originally Posted by bigE79

Who cares...do you think a skins forum is all worried about Dez's back or Sean Lee's toe or any other injury the cowboys had? I doubt it

If you don't care then why are you reading this thread

justcheckinuout · 01-07-2013

I have been flaming mad at shanny for not pulling Rg3 out yesterday, if you didnt see the game it was obvious he was hurt after the second TD. Rg3 told Shanny at half time he was ok and could still play. Shanny should have known that Rg3 isnt going to take himself out. The start of third quarter all the signs where there Rg3 was not even at 50% Mike should have pulled him out then. Very bad move on Shanny and RG3 both for not doing the right thing. Its one thing to be a warrior but another just to be ignorant. The bad snap in fourth quarter sealed Rg3's knee, it bent sideways. From a skins fan stand point all you can do is hope Rg3 can recover and Mike will never let him play again hurt like that. Rg3 needs to learn to know when enough is enough as far as injurys goes. Guess more evaluations will come tomorrow ...fingers crossed its not as bad as it seems. On another note Im very suspicious that Mike and Rg3 both knew that knee was more than a sprain ...was it really worth it to risk ending a career like that Damn!!