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01-08-2013
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New Jersey boy not allowed back to school without flu shot
I have mixed feeling about schools mandating what our kids get shot up with. From my understanding the magical flu vaccine is not even effective against the current outbreak. I believe many of these "vaccines" are nothing more than money makers for companies.
I understand polio and TB and similar things, but to force a child out of school because his parents do not want him to have a ineffective shot against a cold is just stupid, especially when the child is allergic to ingredients in the shot.
I have not had a flu shot in 25 years and have not had the flu in 25 years.
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A 4-year-old boy from New Jersey was asked not to return to his school without a flu shot. But his parents say the child is allergic to the raw egg in the vaccine.
Jeremy Pereira was home playing on an iPad instead of attending school on Monday. Jeremy is allergic to egg, which is present in the flu vaccine. His parents won't expose him but without the shot his school won't let him back until April.
The Pereiras say they had a letter from Jeremy's pediatrician explains his egg allergy.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/0...#ixzz2HOYAyHVG
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Last edited by JBond : 01-08-2013 at 08:44 AM.
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by JBond
I have not had a flue shot in 25 years and have not had the flue in 25 years.
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You are also not 4yrs old, and have an immune system that has been exposed to things.
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01-08-2013
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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I laugh a little when I see stories like this and what the public schools take on as their perceived responsibility.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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01-08-2013
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The Proletariat
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Originally Posted by JBond
I have mixed feeling about schools mandating what our kids get shot up with.
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I don't. There's absolutely no reason to force people to do this sort of crap.
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by vta
I don't. There's absolutely no reason to force people to do this sort of crap.
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Agreed.
This has nothing to do with children's health or education.
They do not want kids getting sick because the school budget is decided by attendance.
This is why my kids only go to private school now.
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01-08-2013
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Kids his age should be vaccinated and are classified as "high risk" for developing potential flu-related complications.
Managing an allergic reaction is far easier than managing the potential severe consequences that could arise with the flu. The risk for allergic reaction is small because the amount of egg protein is incredibly small.
The benefits of the flu shot far outweigh the risks even in patients with egg allergy. It was in the news not too long ago where some research came out about the flu shot likely being safe for egg allergic populations. The study followed a bunch of people with previous severe allergic reactions to consuming eggs and the rate of reaction was so small it was pretty shocking. Also, none of the reaction from the shot were severe and were basically only hives and such.
Hospitals require employees to be vaccinated and undergo annual TB skin testing. They do it because hospital patients often times have compromised immune systems and the flu can flat out kill them.
Kids of this age are at a high risk and the risk increases the younger you get. If this kid has contact with infants or other children under the age of two through an after school program he should be vaccinated. Even if they share classrooms and he doesn't contact these children directly, if he were to get the flu he's going to be spreading it all throughout the common area.
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01-08-2013
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Old bulletproof tiger
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
Kids his age should be vaccinated and are classified as "high risk" for developing potential flu-related complications.
Managing an allergic reaction is far easier than managing the potential severe consequences that could arise with the flu. The risk for allergic reaction is small because the amount of egg protein is incredibly small.
The benefits of the flu shot far outweigh the risks even in patients with egg allergy. It was in the news not too long ago where some research came out about the flu shot likely being safe for egg allergic populations. The study followed a bunch of people with previous severe allergic reactions to consuming eggs and the rate of reaction was so small it was pretty shocking. Also, none of the reaction from the shot were severe and were basically only hives and such.
[View Full Quote]Hospitals require employees to be vaccinated and undergo annual TB skin testing. They do it because hospital patients often times have compromised immune systems and the flu can flat out kill them.
Kids of this age are at a high risk and the risk increases the younger you get. If this kid has contact with infants or other children under the age of two through an after school program he should be vaccinated. Even if they share classrooms and he doesn't contact these children directly, if he were to get the flu he's going to be spreading it all throughout the common area.
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Its offensive as a parent seeing someone w/o children try and relate for a second on this topic.
Hoof, nothing personal, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. You have no children nor bond to even try to understand where a parent is coming from when they say you will not vaccinate my child. You will not stick my child w/ things I do not support.
My son has never had a flu shot in his life, nor I. We are never sick nor never get sick. We might get a cold, but probably far less than most.
So please, don't sit here and tell us how the flu shot is some savior, when it has never been proven, but has been proven to have complications.
Thanks
I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by zrinkill
Agreed.
This has nothing to do with children's health or education.
They do not want kids getting sick because the school budget is decided by attendance.
This is why my kids only go to private school now.
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What if you learned that this was a private school? Or wasn't truly a school but a pre-school/daycare center seeing as the child in the article was four?
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01-08-2013
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Old bulletproof tiger
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Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski
What if you learned that this was a private school? Or wasn't truly a school but a pre-school/daycare center seeing as the child in the article was four?
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Zrin is arguing the bigger picture, not just this one situation. Schools and families have been fighting these so called "required shots" for immunizaiton for some time now. This is not a new thing by any means.
I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
~ BoB Stoops
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by Dallas
Its offensive as a parent seeing someone w/o children try and relate for a second on this topic.
Hoof, nothing personal, but you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. You have no children nor bond to even try to understand where a parent is coming from when they say you will not vaccinate my child. You will not stick my child w/ things I do not support.
My son has never had a flu shot in his life, nor I. We are never sick nor never get sick. We might get a cold, but probably far less than most.
So please, don't sit here and tell us how the flu shot is some savior, when it has never been proven, but has been proven to have complications.
Thanks
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The shot is suppose to help your immune system, not block the virus from entering your body.
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01-08-2013
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(NaturalNews) If you have children, you are more than likely already aware of the official U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) "Immunization Schedules," which today recommend an astounding 29 vaccines be given between birth and six years of age, including yearly flu shots, as well as another five to 16 vaccines between ages seven and 18
( http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/). But a recent investigative report compiled by Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, Ph.D., uncovers more than 30 years of hidden government documents exposing these vaccine schedules as a complete hoax, not to mention the fraud of the vaccines themselves to provide any real protection against disease.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038598_va...#ixzz2HPQvkZn4
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by iceberg
(NaturalNews) If you have children, you are more than likely already aware of the official U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) "Immunization Schedules," which today recommend an astounding 29 vaccines be given between birth and six years of age, including yearly flu shots, as well as another five to 16 vaccines between ages seven and 18
( http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/). But a recent investigative report compiled by Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic, Ph.D., uncovers more than 30 years of hidden government documents exposing these vaccine schedules as a complete hoax, not to mention the fraud of the vaccines themselves to provide any real protection against disease.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038598_va...#ixzz2HPQvkZn4
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Don't forget about them hiding aliens at Area 51 too.
Everybody's got a price, for The Billion Dollar Man!
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01-08-2013
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Preacher From The Black Lagoon
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The thing the government and their minions have to get through their thick heads is they aren't the parents of the children. They can all go pound sand.
"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves..."-Abraham Lincoln
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01-08-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CashMan
You are also not 4yrs old, and have an immune system that has been exposed to things.
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Perhaps, but there is no reason to force this child to get a flue shot, especially under the circumstances. Not saying that this is what you are advocating but I am making it clear that the point JB is making is not, IMO, wrong.
Last edited by ABQCOWBOY : 01-08-2013 at 12:32 PM.
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01-08-2013
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Originally Posted by CashMan
Don't forget about them hiding aliens at Area 51 too.
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Also don't forget that our own government has used our own people as test beds for all kinds of unethical and illegal testing. While your throwing out barbs, lets don't forget that there is justifiable reasons why people fear the Government or Local Governments forcing you to do anything.
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