PFT: Holmgren would only coach Dallas

[MissouriCowboy]

I think a lot of folks overlook it is Reds idea to be the head coach and the oc. This is one of the biggest downfalls of the Cowboys this year. If Red would delegate that job to a oc he Dallas would of been a 10 win team.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by MissouriCowboy

I think a lot of folks overlook it is Reds idea to be the head coach and the oc.

Nope ..... that is a Jerry demand.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Aven8

You mean like "the process"?

Did you by any chance watch the BCS Championship last night?

"Process" was mentioned in reference to Saban several times. He's an idiot right?

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Did you by any chance watch the BCS Championship last night?

"Process" was mentioned in reference to Saban several times. He's an idiot right?

Yes I saw it, and yes I heard it....I actually grinned.

So are you trying to say that JG is stealing Sabans stuff?

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Aven8

Yes I saw it, and yes I heard it....I actually grinned.

So are you trying to say that JG is stealing Sabans stuff?

No, I'm saying this works and we need players who buy in. I know it works.

Rich Rodriguez, the HC here at UA almost every time he is on the radio here talks about getting better every day on all 3 parts of the game.

You can hate it if that fuels you, but it works.

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by Hostile

No, I'm saying this works and we need players who buy in. I know it works.

Rich Rodriguez, the HC here at UA almost every time he is on the radio here talks about getting better every day on all 3 parts of the game.

You can hate it if that fuels you, but it works.

How long do you give Rich until he bolts? He's a gypsy, you know that.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Aven8

How long do you give Rich until he bolts? He's a gypsy, you know that.

5 years, but I won't be sad. I do not like that style of Offense.

[WV Cowboy]

If you are trying to improve from point A to point B, you have to have a process.

Improve yourself, improve your team, improve your marriage, improve your vocabulary, ... none happen over night.

The way you approach practice, the way you approach games, the level of intensity in practice, your attention to detail, .. you try to improve from point A to point B every day, every practice.

But it is a process. If you are not willing to address the process every day, you will not improve.

People may not like everything about JG, but him stressing a process to get this team from point A to point B should not be one of them.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Hostile

No, I'm saying this works and we need players who buy in. I know it works.

Rich Rodriguez, the HC here at UA almost every time he is on the radio here talks about getting better every day on all 3 parts of the game.

You can hate it if that fuels you, but it works.

I get what you are saying but it only works if the person running it makes it work.

The NFL is full of talent so its a thin line between success and failure. JG can't get them to buy in, talk about his process and then start every game like they did this year, have 10 penalties a game and lose. If it was foolproof, every coach would implement it. There are a lot of good people, with good minds that don't exactly make good coaches. That's is what bugs me about his process. We are done with year 2 1/2 and all I've seen differently from JG is the players don't quit after they are down and played bad for 3 quarters. Penalties is worse. Rushing is worse. Play calling and game management hasn't improved IMHO. So when does the process kick in?

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

If you are trying to improve from point A to point B, you have to have a process.

Improve yourself, improve your team, improve your marriage, improve your vocabulary, ... none happen over night.

The way you approach practice, the way you approach games, the level of intensity in practice, your attention to detail, .. you try to improve from point A to point B every day, every practice.

But it is a process. If you are not willing to address the process every day, you will not improve.

People may not like everything about JG, but him stressing a process to get this team from point A to point B should not be one of them.

Few will get that though.

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

I get what you are saying but it only works if the person running it makes it work.

The NFL is full of talent so its a thin line between success and failure. JG can't get them to buy in, talk about his process and then start every game like they did this year, have 10 penalties a game and lose. If it was foolproof, every coach would implement it. There are a lot of good people, with good minds that don't exactly make good coaches. That's is what bugs me about his process. We are done with year 2 1/2 and all I've seen differently from JG is the players don't quit after they are down and played bad for 3 quarters. Penalties is worse. Rushing is worse. Play calling and game management hasn't improved IMHO. So when does the process kick in?

Great explanation! NEW POST OF THE DAY!!!

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

People may not like everything about JG, but him stressing a process to get this team from point A to point B should not be one of them.

It's not that it's hate-worthy, it's that it doesn't mean anything. Every coach wants to get better every day. The key is if you can get your team to actually do it. Because saying the same thing as Nick Saban doesn't make you Nick Saban.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

I get what you are saying but it only works if the person running it makes it work.

The NFL is full of talent so its a thin line between success and failure. JG can't get them to buy in, talk about his process and then start every game like they did this year, have 10 penalties a game and lose. If it was foolproof, every coach would implement it. There are a lot of good people, with good minds that don't exactly make good coaches. That's is what bugs me about his process. We are done with year 2 1/2 and all I've seen differently from JG is the players don't quit after they are down and played bad for 3 quarters. Penalties is worse. Rushing is worse. Play calling and game management hasn't improved IMHO. So when does the process kick in?

Wait, you're saying the players have not bought in?

You are so misinformed it is tragic. Go to DC.com and start learning how far from reality you are. In truth, you're not even close.

[Hostile]

“Well, the process is really what you have to do day in and day out to be successful,” Saban told reporters. “We try to define the standard that we want everybody to sort of work toward, adhere to, and do it on a consistent basis. And the things that I talked about before, being responsible for your own self-determination, having a positive attitude, having great work ethic, having discipline to be able to execute on a consistent basis, whatever it is you’re trying to do, those are the things that we try to focus on, and we don’t try to focus as much on the outcomes as we do on being all that you can be.

“Eliminate the clutter and all the things that are going on outside and focus on the things that you can control with how you sort of go about and take care of your business. That’s something that’s ongoing, and it can never change.”

[jday]

Originally Posted by MarkP88

I'm not saying Holmgren would be the ideal choice. Maybe he would, maybe it'd be better to keep Garrett - I honestly don't know. But I don't think his accomplishments should be dismissed; think of the two teams he led to the Super Bowl.

Green Bay has been a consistent playoff contender for so long than I think people look back at what Holmgren did and take it for granted. They forget how moribund the franchise was before him, and for how long that'd been the case. He led them to two Super Bowl appearances, and one win.

And the Seahawks...? Think about it. He took the Seahawks to the Super Bowl. Which they may have won if not for some very poor officiating. And he did it with Matt Hasselback at QB.

The man can coach, and teach, and call a good ballgame. I don't doubt that at all.

Mark

I wouldn't be opposed to the Cowboys bringing in Holmgren as an advisor (alla Dan Reeves), but I think we as a fanbase should also not ignore the fact that this team fought for Garrett when no one gave them a snow balls chance in hell considering their injury situation they had this year.