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Old 01-08-2013   #31
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A 43 will not work with our personnel at LB and DE. Doesn't matter what they played in college, this is the NFL, and Spencer and Ware will not just be able to switch to DE's as easily as everyone hopes because it is a much different position. Plus we have excellent depth at LB, why take one off the field?
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Look at Denver and seattle, you can have 3 big DL on a 4-3. I think Hatcher could play DE on the strong side. We just need a solb, which I also think Spencer could play.
Seattle and Denver has top defenses and we could mold our current defense a lot like theirs.
I think switching to the 4-3 would also allow us to let spencer go easier. Because we don't have another strong side 3-4 OLB on the roster right now. Now if we move to a 4-3 we can get by with probably albright at SOLB or draft someone in the 2nd or 3rd round. I say we still would need to draft d-line if we switch to the 4-3 thought. Sheldon Robinson (sp?) might be a perfect fit for strong side DE in the 4-3.
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Run whatever you want but how about quitting the random dart toss in terms of getting something out of the defense by switching coordinators and now schemes and instead get some guys up front that don't welcome the opposition to walk all over you.
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If that's the case, I'm glad.

Not a fan of the 3-4.
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A 43 will not work with our personnel at LB and DE. Doesn't matter what they played in college, this is the NFL, and Spencer and Ware will not just be able to switch to DE's as easily as everyone hopes because it is a much different position. Plus we have excellent depth at LB, why take one off the field?
why not ?
Its not like we played great in the 3-4
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why not ?
Its not like we played great in the 3-4
Because we don't have the DE's to run a 43, and DE's happen to be the most important position in a 43 front
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much of this focuses on Garrett's "philosophy" comment.

Philosophy can mean a ton of things. Look at Parcell's 3-4 vs. Wade's - different philosophies. Dom Capers ... different philosophy.
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Because we don't have the DE's to run a 43, and DE's happen to be the most important position in a 43 front
I think many people on this board have pointed out that Spencer appears an ideal 4-3 DE. Ware would be Ware in that position as well. What we lack is legitimate depth there - it will be hard for a 4-3 DE to play every snap like Ware and Spencer do now
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Rearranging the deck chairs.

It took boy wonder 3 years to figure out what kind of defense he likes. Wow.
The Dallas "Football" Cowboys a team where everyone is accountable*.

*Unless their name is Jerry or Jason.
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Rearranging the deck chairs.

It took boy wonder 3 years to figure out what kind of defense he likes. Wow.
Part of Garrett's process apparently is to take super long to figure out something pretty simple but fundamental to what your trying to do.
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I think many people on this board have pointed out that Spencer appears an ideal 4-3 DE. Ware would be Ware in that position as well. What we lack is legitimate depth there - it will be hard for a 4-3 DE to play every snap like Ware and Spencer do now
Ware would not be ware, that's the problem. Ware currently only plays in a 3 point on passing downs. Defending the run from a 3 point is much different then from a 2 point. Also, Ware has been playing OLB is whole NFL career, a change at this point would be difficult because it's a much different position. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
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Anyone think spears might actually look decent in a 4-3 front next to rat?
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Ware would not be ware, that's the problem. Ware currently only plays in a 3 point on passing downs. Defending the run from a 3 point is much different then from a 2 point. Also, Ware has been playing OLB is whole NFL career, a change at this point would be difficult because it's a much different position. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
Dwight freeney and robert mathis had no prob switching to a 3-4 why sould ware have a hard time? Moving from de and having to cover space and drop in zones is a much tougher change to me than moving from olb to de would be.
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Dwight freeney and robert mathis had no prob switching to a 3-4 why sould ware have a hard time? Moving from de and having to cover space and drop in zones is a much tougher change to me than moving from olb to de would be.
Ya and how good is Indy against the run? Ware and Spencer having to drop into coverage was a part of Ryan's scheme, a stupid part at that, and one that can be changed now. We can stay in 34 and not have to drop them into coverage
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Ware would not be ware, that's the problem. Ware currently only plays in a 3 point on passing downs. Defending the run from a 3 point is much different then from a 2 point. Also, Ware has been playing OLB is whole NFL career, a change at this point would be difficult because it's a much different position. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
I'm not so sure about that. Before his stint with the Cowboys, Charles Haley played outside linebacker in San Francisco's 3-4 scheme. He made the transition to defense end in Dallas' 4-3 scheme when he was at roughly the same point in his career that Ware is now.

Additionally, it's not like Ware has never played in a three point stance; Ryan ran some four man fronts.
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