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01-09-2013
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Lastly,.......Ive never in my whole life been so out of sorts about a head coach than I am with Jason Garrett. I have either really liked the head coach and his philosophy,...or I have hated the guy.
Not so with Garrett though. There are things about him that I really like,.......then there are things about him and his philosophy that I truly despise.
I will say this though.....I still truly believe that he has the "MAKINGS" of a great head coach. But only if he has the right D.C and especially the right O.C on the team. IN NO WAY does that right O.C include the name Jason Garrett!
I see Garrett as potentially the opposite of Norv. Norv=GREAT O.C,...middling head coach. Garrett= Potentially great head coach.....middling O.C.
Time to FINALLY fix this trainwreck and do what is best for all involved. Welcome home NORV!
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01-09-2013
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Originally Posted by RS12
Seed, how'd ya like the way that second rounder played on the O Line, I mean the D Line, oh thats right.
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01-09-2013
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#18
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Originally Posted by Kilyin
Remain calm, Jerry will fix it. It's a process.
40 year fan huh? You must be old. Hopefully Jerry beats you to the promise land. His liver must look like a hairnet by now.
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Actually,...I rounded up a LITTLE bit to make it easier. Technically Im a 38 year fan. Started watching these guys when I was 10 years old. Been a die hard ever since. And YES......Im getting old! LOL Key word being "GETTING" not quite there YET!
Why just the other day it seems I was watchin Billy Joe Dupree and Drew out catching passes. LEGS Newhouse was blocking for Preston on a sweep play. I tell ya,....did someone find a way to speed up time or WHAT!?  Thats what it feels like lately though. Just woooooooooosh!
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01-09-2013
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#19
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Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed
Actually,...I rounded up a LITTLE bit to make it easier. Technically Im a 38 year fan. Started watching these guys when I was 10 years old. Been a die hard ever since. And YES......Im getting old! LOL Key word being "GETTING" not quite there YET!
Why just the other day it seems I was watchin Billy Joe Dupree and Drew out catching passes. LEGS Newhouse was blocking for Preston on a sweep play. I tell ya,....did someone find a way to speed up time or WHAT!?  Thats what it feels like lately though. Just woooooooooosh!
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I feel ya, I guess I'm about a 30 year fan, rounding up. Hell, that makes me feel old.
Grew up on Danny White. I stopped watching football during the Campo era for a couple years. I just couldn't take it after what happened during the period leading up to all that. Otherwise, been on the 'bandwagon' since (I always get called a bandwagon fan since I live in VA).
I'm on the 'can't take it anymore' wavelength for sure. I just keep a kung-fu deathgrip on a sliver of hope.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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01-09-2013
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#20
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Originally Posted by Kilyin
Otherwise, been on the 'bandwagon' since (I always get called a bandwagon fan since I live in VA).
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Grew up and still reside in Northern Wisconsin deep in the heart of Packer country. My whole life people look at me like........" your a fan of WHAT team??!"  Believe me,...the Cowboys hate still runs deep up here. In fact,...they actually hate our team more than they do the Bears. Mostly because they have had theyre way with the Bears for so many years now.
Ten years old. Just started watching football in a serious way. Turned on the tube and started watching a game one day. Thought that team in white and blue with the star on its helmet were the coolest thing since sliced bread. Been watching them ever since.
Finally made it down to a game about 10 years ago. Great experience. Liked it so much I went back six more times. Going again next year too!
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01-09-2013
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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed
Finally made it down to a game about 10 years ago. Great experience. Liked it so much I went back six more times. Going again next year too!
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I think as a kid I liked the Cowboys because my dad and brother hated them (Deadskins).
Did we win the first game you went to? My first game, I went to Texas Stadium when the triplets were inducted into the ROH, and we all know how that went. Haven't been to a game since.
"I just kind of stopped in the middle of a route, which is the worst thing you can do," Ogletree said. "He just told me, 'What were you thinking?' I kind of mumbled something to him and he was like, 'You're stupid.' "
"If we can get the running game going early, that'll open up the passing game for Troy." - Jerry Jones, 11/12/12
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01-09-2013
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#22
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Originally Posted by Kilyin
I think as a kid I liked the Cowboys because my dad and brother hated them (Deadskins).
Did we win the first game you went to? My first game, I went to Texas Stadium when the triplets were inducted into the ROH, and we all know how that went. Haven't been to a game since.
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Nope, we lost. Was a low scoring affair against the Giants back when Carter was still the QB. Have had pretty good luck though overall. Think were 5-2 in the games Ive made it to.
My last game was the season before this one. A monday nighter against the deadskins. We held them off with a last second INT of Grossman to seal it. It was really cool too because a couple skins fans from EXTREMESKINS were sitting right in front of us. They left pretty unhappy! 
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01-09-2013
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#23
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Originally Posted by rat2k8
Been a fan since 1972, it is so sad what this organization has become. What was once a proud organization and an honor for the players to wear the  , has become a shadow of its former self. We are now the joke of the entire league. Jerry and his merry men have brought us to this state. I hope this thing gets turned around quickly, because it is very painful watching this organization year in and year out. 
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I've been a fan since the first year the Dallas Cowboys existed. The Cowboys have never won a SB since Jerry owned the team that didn't have Jimmy Johnson's fingerprints on them. Switzer won a SB with the team Jimmy built.
There has not been a SB win since then. Will there ever be? I doubt it in my life time. Why am I still a fan. I was a fan before Jerry ever thought he would own and destroy what Tex Schram and Coach Landry built. If I live long enough, which is highly doubtful since I am I approaching the 80 mark, then after JJ is gone to his eternal reward there might be another opportunity to win another SB.
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01-09-2013
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#24
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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed
This team sometimes,......I tell ya!
As a 40 year die hard fan of the Dallas Cowboys and football in general Ive seen alot of things. Seen alot of players, coaches, schemes, come and go. But I gotta tell ya,....I aint never seen nuthin like this lately! LOL
Football at its core is a very simple game. Lineplay, both offensive and defensive is the very essence of the sport. ALWAYS has been,...ALWAYS will be.
The offensive and defensive lines are where games have always been won or lost. EVERYTHING else is merely window dressing so to speak.
This is why I always say that football teams should always be built from the inside out instead of the outside in.
Offensive line, QB, R.B. Thats where it all starts on offense.
[View Full Quote]The reason you do this is because at least that way you have the ability to run the ball. IF you can run the ball,...you are at least IN every game. To say nothing of the running game opening up the most successful passing play ever devised......PLAY ACTION.
Look at RG3 for a second. Do you know why his passing stats are as good as they were? Because in the pistol offense EVERY DAMN PLAY is a chance for play action. He fakes the handoff to the r.b,....then there is the threat of HIM running,...and it freezes the L.B's and safeties. Opens up HUGE passing lanes that just about anyone can complete passes in. Anyone at all almost.
On defense you also build inside out. D.T,s, M.L.B, and a safety. You do this because at the very least,...you can always stand a pretty good chance of stopping the run. You stop the run and you are always AT LEAST in the game with a chance to win.
Once you have established your interior you go out and fill those outside/edge positions. Do that right and you have a chance to win alot of meaningful games including Superbowls.
But the whole thing starts up front. ALWAYS has.
It doesnt matter so much what scheme we run or who coaches it,...not saying it doesnt matter at all, just saying that if you do not build your interior you cannot be SOUND,...and if you are not sound.....YOU CANT WIN. At least not consistently.
Ive grown very weary of debating this FACT with folks, in fact I refuse to even do it anymore. It just astounds me sometimes that this isnt something that EVERYONE should know. Its soooooooo simple, soooooooo true, yet so many refuse to accept it as truth.
Wanna win some games? BUILD DOMINANT lines and control the LOS. Wanna screw around and go 8-8 every year? Keep doing what were doing. Simple as that.
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The problem with this team is we no longer rebuild .
We are stuck in mediocrity .
You know what happened the last time we rebuilt !
3 rings !
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01-09-2013
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#25
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The only way I would even remotely consider buying into anything Jerry does going forward is if he stock piled the O and D lines in the next 2 years. That MIGHT convince me he is serious about winning and even then I may still not believe. See my sig line Jerry...lather, rinse and repeat that for the rest of your life with this team.
I'm tired of him talking. I'm tired of him having radio shows, events at HIS stadium and all the other BS. Shut up, step into the shadows and hand out the money or just get out period. I don't want anymore explanations from him on why he chose to do something. Shutup and win and then you'll get your stupid credit you want.
Between the last few days and some of the stuff I've read on the board it has really stirred up my memory of how Landry was let go and I'm completely ticked.
I may not be making any sense here but I needed to rant. Felt like the right thread to do it in coat tailing Aveningings frustration.
Restore the trenches, restore the rings.
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01-10-2013
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#26
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All Aboard!!!
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look..
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Originally Posted by Avenging Hayseed
This team sometimes,......I tell ya!
As a 40 year die hard fan of the Dallas Cowboys and football in general Ive seen alot of things. Seen alot of players, coaches, schemes, come and go. But I gotta tell ya,....I aint never seen nuthin like this lately! LOL
Football at its core is a very simple game. Lineplay, both offensive and defensive is the very essence of the sport. ALWAYS has been,...ALWAYS will be.
The offensive and defensive lines are where games have always been won or lost. EVERYTHING else is merely window dressing so to speak.
This is why I always say that football teams should always be built from the inside out instead of the outside in.
Offensive line, QB, R.B. Thats where it all starts on offense.
[View Full Quote]The reason you do this is because at least that way you have the ability to run the ball. IF you can run the ball,...you are at least IN every game. To say nothing of the running game opening up the most successful passing play ever devised......PLAY ACTION.
Look at RG3 for a second. Do you know why his passing stats are as good as they were? Because in the pistol offense EVERY DAMN PLAY is a chance for play action. He fakes the handoff to the r.b,....then there is the threat of HIM running,...and it freezes the L.B's and safeties. Opens up HUGE passing lanes that just about anyone can complete passes in. Anyone at all almost.
On defense you also build inside out. D.T,s, M.L.B, and a safety. You do this because at the very least,...you can always stand a pretty good chance of stopping the run. You stop the run and you are always AT LEAST in the game with a chance to win.
Once you have established your interior you go out and fill those outside/edge positions. Do that right and you have a chance to win alot of meaningful games including Superbowls.
But the whole thing starts up front. ALWAYS has.
It doesnt matter so much what scheme we run or who coaches it,...not saying it doesnt matter at all, just saying that if you do not build your interior you cannot be SOUND,...and if you are not sound.....YOU CANT WIN. At least not consistently.
Ive grown very weary of debating this FACT with folks, in fact I refuse to even do it anymore. It just astounds me sometimes that this isnt something that EVERYONE should know. Its soooooooo simple, soooooooo true, yet so many refuse to accept it as truth.
Wanna win some games? BUILD DOMINANT lines and control the LOS. Wanna screw around and go 8-8 every year? Keep doing what were doing. Simple as that.
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we all feel your pain.
Do like the rest of us do.
Pull out the old SB DVDs of the 90's teams and dream you were much younger than today.
 RedBaLL ExPreSS 
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01-10-2013
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#27
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those that say the running game is not important anymore should think about that 3rd and 2 feet against the Giants. They KNEW there was no way JG would call a run there. And they were right.
You can talk all you want about how even an appearence of a run game gets it done. That down tells the REAL story. If the D has no respect for your run game they will shut you down sooner or later.
Las Cruces NM
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Where men are men and the sheep are scared!
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01-10-2013
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#28
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Originally Posted by burmafrd
those that say the running game is not important anymore should think about that 3rd and 2 feet against the Giants. They KNEW there was no way JG would call a run there. And they were right.
You can talk all you want about how even an appearence of a run game gets it done. That down tells the REAL story. If the D has no respect for your run game they will shut you down sooner or later.
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