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Old 01-10-2013   #16
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I let him walk if we move to a 4-3. Take that money and invest in safeties.

Between Ware, Ratliff, Crawford, Hatcher, Lissemore, Spears we can find a group that can play DL.

Sensy, Church, Johnson, Mccray - we are hurting big time

Sign Jarius Byrd and draft Reid or Elam or Vaccaro.
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Old 01-10-2013   #17
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Kffl said they are working out the details and gonna keep him here...
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Old 01-10-2013   #18
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I can see Ware playing DE in a 4-3. Spencer on the other hand has pretty much stood up as a 3-4 OLB his entire career in Dallas. Spencer, at 250lb, switching to a new position as a 4-3 DE lined up across from 300-325lb RTs play after play is a very big change.
Wut?

So has Ware. But they both were DEs in college.

I don't get it.
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do you want to pay 10m to a guy making the move the DE, who isnt the greatest pressure player anyway.
Thats top 6/7 DE money..................... in the tampa 2 that front 4 sure as hell better get pressure by themselves on a regular basis
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http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=834...about-new-deal
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Old 01-10-2013   #21
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No one is above being removed when you're 8-8 annually.

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He's a goner.
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.

2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.

3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.

4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.

5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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Wut?

So has Ware. But they both were DEs in college.

I don't get it.
Because Spencer last played DE in 2006 -- 7 years ago.

He has literally played 7000 or so snaps as a standup 3-4 OLB since then.

I'm not sure this is like riding a bike...
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Ok -- supposedly Kiffin is bringing the Tampa 2 to Dallas.

Is there ANY scenario where the Cowboys would pay Spencer the $10m/year that he'll be able to get on the open market, only to make him a converted 4-3 tweener 250lb DE?

Would Spencer even want to make that transition? I'm not sure he would. He's played his entire professional career as a standup 3-4 LB.

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DE in college and in nickel in the NFL if he comes back he'll do fine. I also think he can be used as an OLB like in NY like mentioned already.
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Huh?

All that says is "said Spencer would like to re-sign and believes the two sides can reach an agreement on a new contract".

That's new not news. That's space filler.
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I can see Ware playing DE in a 4-3. Spencer on the other hand has pretty much stood up as a 3-4 OLB his entire career in Dallas. Spencer, at 250lb, switching to a new position as a 4-3 DE lined up across from 300-325lb RTs play after play is a very big change.
Spencer is more like 270 but more to the point, DWare is taller and liter then Spencer so I don't fully understand why you think Ware would work but Spencer would not?
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Spencer is more like 270 but more to the point, DWare is taller and liter then Spencer so I don't fully understand why you think Ware would work but Spencer would not?
Do I think that Spencer could probably be a OK to above average 4-3 DE. Yeah sure.

Would I sign him to a 4 or 5 year contract extension with major guaranteed money that would put him at $10m/year only to convert him to a 4-3 DE.... no way.

I doubt he'd even want to be converted -- often players resist these kinds of moves.
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He's gone because we can't afford him IMO.
I wish people would stop saying this, because it just isn't true.

He may not be worth the amount of money he wants due to age/prior playing level.

He may not be a good value considering how much we are paying Ware.

And eventually time may tell that it was the correct decision to let him walk.

But it won't be because we couldn't afford him, it will be because we chose to go in another direction.

Adam has already alluded to the cap not being an issue this offseason, despite all the reports out there, so if we don't resign Spencer, it was a choice, not our hand being forced.


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Is it even a question? Anthony Spencer will not be a Dallas Cowboy next year.
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I personally think Spencer is a better OLB than DE. So he is gone.
He plays better in space and his versatility is a real strength.
He isn't worth 10-12M as a DE.
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