Hill: Monte Kiffen won't force cover 2 scheme...interviewed w/JG and JG today

[gimmesix]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Rafael Vela ‏@CowboysNation1
The ageism against a Kiffin hire amuses me. Some people want Crennel. He's 65. Tom Coughlin 66. Are they too old?

I think it's funny, too. People think the game has passed these guys by, but there's no evidence it has. Sometimes a little wisdom and know-how should be treasured.

[InmanRoshi]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Do people actually doubt Ware can play DE?

I don't get it either. I guess people have so little regard for Demarcus Ware as a football player that they don't think he can make a transition that Kevin Greene, Charles Haley, Chris Doleman and untold numbers of guys who couldn't hold DeMarcus Ware's jock have made before.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I don't necessarily think he's too old, but at that age I think those six or seven years can make a big difference.

Dick LeBeau is 75, he must of lost the fire 3 years ago too...oh wait that's right his defense played in the SB in 2008 and 2010.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

Rafael Vela ‏@CowboysNation1
The ageism against a Kiffin hire amuses me. Some people want Crennel. He's 65. Tom Coughlin 66. Are they too old?

All this age stuff is really getting on my nerves.

First it was Brent is too old to be commenting on a beautiful female, now this guy is too old to be DC. Now I'm nowhere near that age, but some people are 73 when they are in their 40s.

Age isn't chronological, its mental. If he can't mentally handle it, he shouldn't get the job, but chronological age has nothing to do with it. There are plenty of younger guys we could hire that aren't mentally capable of doing the job.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Dick LeBeau is 75, he must of lost the fire 3 years ago too...oh wait that's right his defense played in the SB in 2008 and 2010.

I already said I don't think he's necessarily too old.

But not everyone is Lebeau. Those years made a big difference to Parcells. I know people personally who changed a lot in that time.

[187beatdown]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Kevin Greene with 160.0, which is 3rd all time. LT is 2nd as a LB with 132.5. Ware is 5th among LBs and has 111.0. Rickey Jackson and Derrick Thomas are 3rd and 4th.

I still can't believe he racked up 111 in 8 years.

It's gotta be next to impossible to do something like that. It's easy to say JJ Watt has the potential but you never know these days.

[CowboyStar88]

Originally Posted by RGKN33

well washington sure ate him up in which he basically played re even though i give him the benifit of the doubt for being injured .
My issue with ware is his containment , he over-pursues alot which hurts us so much in the run game .

Say what again? How do you figure? He didn't play end he didn't play his hand on the ground. He played OLB and he didn't read the run option the right way which most teams had an issue with. Obviously when he goes to end he will have different responsiblities. I wouldn't call Ware having a bad game where the other team designed to attack him due to his injury a "problem" or an "issue" I would say the other team did a damn good job at exploting the "injury". The guy is a smart football player and I would bet that this over pursing thing is a myth based off those 2 games. He has always been very good as a run stopper. Maybe not as good as Spencer, but than again they have different responsibilities in the 3-4.

[FLCowboyFan]

Originally Posted by intelmax

Still would rather have Kirby smart :/

If he was really "Smart" he would keep coaching in Alabama. That's the best job in football

[CrazyCowboy]

Originally Posted by CoachHodnett

@clarencehilljr: Per a source, if Kiffen comes to Dallas..he will not force cover 2 scheme in secondary..will let Carr and Claiborne do what they do best

@clarencehilljr: Kiffen talked to Garrett and Jones at Valley Ranch today, believes Dware can play end. Whats true is you won't see him in coverage anymore

@clarencehilljr: Cowboys believe in Kiffen's NFL track record not his struggles in the college game..two different games.

So, what do they do "best"?

I assume, "man-to-man" coverage? I hope they are up in the wr's face vs 10 yds back.

[honyock]

If the media reports are to be believed, Kiffin wants back in the NFL, he's told KC no, and now he's assuring JJ and JG that he'll let Carr/Claiborne do what they do best. Sounds like someone who wants this job.

At this point, I'll be surprised if this DOESN'T happen.

[TheCoolFan]

I hope he's still got something left in the tank because his defense could NOT stop any of the spread offenses in the SEC/Pac-12. And considering how the NFL offenses will continue to try to be innovative and adopt college schemes, this could be bad timing!

[cowboys#1]

Originally Posted by GloryDaysRBack

kiffin not implementing his cover 2 scheme sounds like it has FAIL written all over it

why bring him in at all?

because jerry will tell coach how to coach forever

[theogt]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I don't necessarily think he's too old, but at that age I think those six or seven years can make a big difference.

Agree. You can't say a 33 year old running back is "just a few years older" than a 28-29 year old back. Retirement age is mid-60s for a reason, whether it's harsh or not.

[Vintage]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Do you have so little regard for Demarcus Ware as a football player that you don't think he can make a transition that Kevin Greene, Charles Haley, Chris Doleman and untold numbers of guys who couldn't hold DeMarcus Ware's jock have made before?

Ths is the same board that by and large wanted to get slower, less athletic, and fatter up front.

So.... Little wonder there is doubt ware can play de. He isn't fatty mcgriddlefatcakesrunplugger.

[InmanRoshi]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I already said I don't think he's necessarily too old.

But not everyone is Lebeau. Those years made a big difference to Parcells. I know people personally who changed a lot in that time.

His age is definitely a down the road concern for me, but not a short term (ie 1-3 years) concern. I would be more concerned if I thought it was going to cause another scheme change in a couple of years. But he has a large coaching tree, and there's enough of his disciples out there floating around the league that it shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement and keep continuity when he decides to hang it up after he's overseen the transition here for a couple of years.