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Old 01-10-2013   #46
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
Jerry is convinced that bringing back football stylings from the magical 1990's will somehow change the way the Cowboys play. The rules have changed, the game tape that allows the exposure of scheme flaws has amassed, and the older coaches who are being resurrected, except Shanahan, are just not keeping pace. But then Schiano, Harbaughs, Tomlin, etc are showing success by bucking convention and raising their fists for the team to follow, and Jerry goes out and find a relic to somehow update the team with an antiquated scheme (and with Air Coryell, predictability will be on both sides of the ball. I like the Cover 2 but not when the playcaller might fall and can't get up.
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Old 01-10-2013   #47
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Agree. You can't say a 33 year old running back is "just a few years older" than a 28-29 year old back. Retirement age is mid-60s for a reason, whether it's harsh or not.


True. I am concerned with Kiffins body lean as he rushes the passer. Its getting worse with age.



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Old 01-10-2013   #48
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I already said I don't think he's necessarily too old.

But not everyone is Lebeau. Those years made a big difference to Parcells. I know people personally who changed a lot in that time.
I am looking at his age factor in a positive light, I suspect our Defensive players may respect and listen to him in the Team meetings due to his experience (age).


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Old 01-10-2013   #49
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The ageism against a Kiffin hire amuses me. Some people want Crennel. He's 65. Tom Coughlin 66. Are they too old?
This is so stupid. It's not ageism once you hit 70! It's prudent thinking.

"hey is this guy too old for the job? He's eight years past the age of retirement"

"maybe"

How can you fault anybody for that? Also interesting he picks two guys coming off bad years. People were saying Holmgren was too old, EGG ON YOUR FACE NOW BOYS! ‎‏
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People were saying Holmgren was too old, EGG ON YOUR FACE NOW BOYS! ‎‏
Ha, good point. Not going to look it up, but I know some of the people who said 64-year-old Holmgren was too old are now saying 73 is no problem.
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In regards to the CB's playing press man, that is fine to me. I wonder if people realize that press man is used in certain instances of the cover 2 defense. The two safeties would still have deep half coverage responsibilities, the CB's would play outside man, and in most instances, the outside LB's would cover the flats, with the MLB taking the mid zone. If Kiffin does come, I imagine we use both cover 2 zone and man fronts.
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As long as Jerry's alive, this absurdity will continue to be the norm.
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In regards to the CB's playing press man, that is fine to me. I wonder if people realize that press man is used in certain instances of the cover 2 defense. The two safeties would still have deep half coverage responsibilities, the CB's would play outside man, and it most general instances, the outside LB's would cover the flats, with the MLB taking the middle. If Kiffin does come, I imagine we use both cover 2 zone and man fronts.
Just like his former understudy uses in Seattle.

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Kevin Greene with 160.0, which is 3rd all time. LT is 2nd as a LB with 132.5. Ware is 5th among LBs and has 111.0. Rickey Jackson and Derrick Thomas are 3rd and 4th.
I forgot about Greene and was thinking LT was the leader.

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Do people actually doubt Ware can play DE?


........my only concern would be that shoulder holding up: but he obviously can play DE, no question in my mind
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I don't necessarily think he's too old, but at that age I think those six or seven years can make a big difference.
He also named two coaches that are 7 and 6 years younger, like that proved his argument.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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I'll tell you why age matters....he's old. Look at what just happened to Arians. Anyone can get sick, have issues, etc. but the reality of the business is these guys put in a massive amount of hours with little sleep. At 72 you may have health issues and this isn't a long term fix. My gut is telling me this is a force hire but I also like what he's done in the pros and would welcome the experience. A strange deal considering he's known for a certain defense but isn't going to run that...maybe
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They shouldn't, but I will say I wanted him to set the NFL record for sacks by a LB.
Who cares...
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Jerry Jones wanted to make a splash hire..Monte Kiffen would fit the bill if this was 2003 not 2013.
"Don't be cute be good" Jimmy Johnson

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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