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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
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You do have to realize that Khan is just the owner, not the GM, of the Jaguars. While Jerry is proudly the owner/GM of the Cowboys. You might not agree of the decisions Jerry makes as the GM, but it's technically his job to do what we've seen the past week, so your comparison of both is rather misguided.
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01-11-2013
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The Chief
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And that's the way it should be.
Of course when the owner is impersonating the GM and making all the decisions, you've got problems, as the Cowboys do.
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving Cowboy
And that's the way it should be.
Of course when the owner is impersonating the GM and making all the decisions, you've got problems, as the Cowboys do.
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One does not impersonate the GM when he is the GM. Now, the question if Jerry is qualified is a different story.
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01-11-2013
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The Chief
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielofthesaints
You do have to realize that Khan is just the owner, not the GM, of the Jaguars. While Jerry is proudly the owner/GM of the Cowboys. You might not agree of the decisions Jerry makes as the GM, but it's technically his job to do what we've seen the past week, so your comparison of both is rather misguided.
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Actually, it's spot on if you see the purpose in the OP. Jerry should not be making the decisions of a GM solely because he has anointed himself as one. It's really not that hard to understand.
He really shouldn't be making these decisions he's been making this week, either. If he didn't like the direction the team is going, he should have let Garrett make the decisions as to who needed to go or fired Garrett and let his replacement pick his staff.
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01-11-2013
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Run-loving Dino
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Well this is confusing. I thought every team did it the way we do it.
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Location: | Iowa |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielofthesaints
You do have to realize that Khan is just the owner, not the GM, of the Jaguars. While Jerry is proudly the owner/GM of the Cowboys. You might not agree of the decisions Jerry makes as the GM, but it's technically his job to do what we've seen the past week, so your comparison of both is rather misguided.
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This...you may not like it that Jerry is the GM but there is nothing anyone can do to change that. Only Jerry can. Until that day I for one am not going to waste energy fretting about what he should do.
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01-11-2013
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The Chief
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielofthesaints
One does not impersonate the GM when he is the GM. Now, the question if Jerry is qualified is a different story.
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Really? Well why don't you enlighten me as to who hired him as GM? Because on 31 other teams that is what has happened.
Just because I go and buy a 747 doesn't make me a pilot. If I put on an outfit and sat in the chair, I would be accused of impersonating a pilot.
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving Cowboy
Really? Well why don't you enlighten me as to who hired him as GM? Because on 31 other teams that is what has happened.
Just because I go and buy a 747 doesn't make me a pilot. If I put on an outfit and sat in the chair, I would be accused of impersonating a pilot.
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You don't need a license to be a GM. Just the power granted by the owner, which in this case Jerry has. A qualified GM is another story.
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01-11-2013
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Zone Scribe
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 18,239 |
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Yeah, those Jaguars do it the "right way" ... if you consider firing a HC who inherited a crap team after he's had 1 year on the job the "right way".
The Hunt family also does things the "right way", and look at all those Superbowl Trophies the Chiefs have racked up in the last 30 years after a long succession of Jim Schaafs and Scott Piolis and Carl Petersons .

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.
Last edited by InmanRoshi : 01-11-2013 at 10:17 AM.
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
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The difference between Shad and Jones is that one has 20+ years of experience as a GM and the other one doesn't.
You may not like Jones' philosophy as a GM, but he's got a decent resume.
People like to credit Jimmy with the Superbowls, but it was just as much Jerry the GM as it was Jimmy. There's no way we improve so fast without trading away our marquee player for a truckload of picks and players. Look at the difference in our pass rush from 1991 to 1992 - that's due to the GM who went out and got Charles Haley. Nabbing Deion in 1995 free agency certainly didn't hurt us in the quest to win a third Superbowl in four years.
The thing I criticize Jerry the GM for is that he's too loyal to his players and too much of a fan. He rewarded the triplets with nice contracts, which didn't hurt the team on the field but gave us very little depth and hurt us when Aikman and Irvin had to retire due to injury. He repeated the mistake with Marion Barber and Jay Ratliff, IMO. He always thinks we're a couple of players away from a Superbowl and for a while was a little poisoned by his success with Haley and Sanders, so he's been willing to take risks on the likes of Raghib Ismail, Joey Galloway, and Roy E. Williams. The fans pretty much demand constant success though - Garrett is just two years into his personnel changes, and fans are already demanding he be jettisoned despite a .500 record.
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01-11-2013
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The Peacemaker
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Two feet over |
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Keep it civil ----
You Young-uns Stay Out of Cbz's Yard --
Still miss you Pops
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01-11-2013
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The Peacemaker
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Two feet over |
Posts: | 5,806 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmd24
The difference between Shad and Jones is that one has 20+ years of experience as a GM and the other one doesn't.
You may not like Jones' philosophy as a GM, but he's got a decent resume.
People like to credit Jimmy with the Superbowls, but it was just as much Jerry the GM as it was Jimmy. There's no way we improve so fast without trading away our marquee player for a truckload of picks and players. Look at the difference in our pass rush from 1991 to 1992 - that's due to the GM who went out and got Charles Haley. Nabbing Deion in 1995 free agency certainly didn't hurt us in the quest to win a third Superbowl in four years.
[View Full Quote]The thing I criticize Jerry the GM for is that he's too loyal to his players and too much of a fan. He rewarded the triplets with nice contracts, which didn't hurt the team on the field but gave us very little depth and hurt us when Aikman and Irvin had to retire due to injury. He repeated the mistake with Marion Barber and Jay Ratliff, IMO. He always thinks we're a couple of players away from a Superbowl and for a while was a little poisoned by his success with Haley and Sanders, so he's been willing to take risks on the likes of Raghib Ismail, Joey Galloway, and Roy E. Williams. The fans pretty much demand constant success though - Garrett is just two years into his personnel changes, and fans are already demanding he be jettisoned despite a .500 record.
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Very good --thanks
You Young-uns Stay Out of Cbz's Yard --
Still miss you Pops
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
Joined: | Dec 2004 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CIWhitefish
You don't need a license to be a GM. Just the power granted by the owner, which in this case Jerry has. A qualified GM is another story.
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Your point is rather facile. The OP thinks Jerry has no business being GM--the fact that he appointed himself GM only makes his point for him.
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01-11-2013
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2012 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dstone2962
Just to compare how other teams owners operate, even teams like the Jaguars who are in a pitiful state:
Shad Khan on why he won't pursue Tebow...
"It's not my decision," Khan said. "I want to do whatever to help this team win. Who the players are is really the general manager's and coaches' -- it's a football-side operation decision. It's really not my decision."
What has changed for Khan in the 10 months since he wanted Tebow?
"I'm telling them to take a look at Tebow and they're saying, 'We're going to go in a different direction,'" Khan said. "That's the difference."
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A guy who's name is Shad Khan is an NFL owner? What gives?
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