Why all the Gruden love? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Hussein · 01-12-2013

I have no idea why so many people are in love with this guy. Ever since his SB win (granted he won one), with a team assembled by Dungy, he has a record of 45 - 51 with 2 wild-card losses in the first round.

That doesn't scream overwhelming success to me. No other team seems interested in him - so why should we?

iceberg · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by Hussein

I have no idea why so many people are in love with this guy. Ever since his SB win (granted he won one), with a team assembled by Dungy, he has a record of 45 - 51 with 2 wild-card losses in the first round.

That doesn't scream overwhelming success to me. No other team seems interested in him - so why should we?

cause he's a shiny object people will equate to instant success.

TheFinisher · 01-12-2013

newlander · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by Hussein

I have no idea why so many people are in love with this guy. Ever since his SB win (granted he won one), with a team assembled by Dungy, he has a record of 45 - 51 with 2 wild-card losses in the first round.

That doesn't scream overwhelming success to me. No other team seems interested in him - so why should we?

......he's pretty comfy in the broadcast booth too: he isn't going anywhere IMO: he can stay at espn for another 10 years plus if he keeps his nose clean. Make a mil per year plus endorsements and work 80% less hard than he would as a HC. Jimmy and Cowher found out the same thing: it's easy money and head coaching is a hornets nest.

.....I think JJ goes to Holmgren when it's over and done with Red: doesn't matter if it's this offseason or next: he's been enamored with Mike for a LONG time. And as we saw yesterday, age isn't a hurdle with Al Jr.

CATCH17 · 01-12-2013

I'm not a big fan to be honest.

His offensive schemes are just as bland as Jason's.

CashMan · 01-12-2013

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......he's pretty comfy in the broadcast booth too: he isn't going anywhere IMO: he can stay at espn for another 10 years plus if he keeps his nose clean. Make a mil per year plus endorsements and work 80% less hard than he would as a HC. Jimmy and Cowher found out the same thing: it's easy money and head coaching is a hornets nest.

.....I think JJ goes to Holmgren when it's over and done with Red: doesn't matter if it's this offseason or next: he's been enamored with Mike for a LONG time. And as we saw yesterday, age isn't a hurdle with Al Jr.

I am not a fan of Gruden, but he wants to work hard. He sleeps something like 3-4hrs per night.

CATCH17 · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by iceberg

cause he's a shiny object people will equate to instant success.

Agreed but if you have a quarterback you should be able to get better success than Garrett has gotten.

But since we don't play to win until the game is on the line he has a 500 record.

CATCH17 · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by CashMan

I am not a fan of Gruden, but he wants to work hard. He sleeps something like 3-4hrs per night.

I don't doubt that Garrett works hard. He's just not that good of a coach unless he can out athlete the opposing team.

yentl911 · 01-12-2013

I think that Gruden could do a lot with this offense. He has never - as far as I know - even had a decent QB on one of his teams and he has still won. He has a bit of swagger/attitude about him and I like that as well.

He has a really good offensive mind and I think he and Romo would be outstanding.

I would love him to come here as OC - I know it would never happen though.

Venger · 01-12-2013

I absolutely do not want Gruden. Everything I hear from him in the booth reinforces that opinion.

jnday · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by iceberg

cause he's a shiny object people will equate to instant success.

No, he is a better coach. Anything over 8-8 is an improvement.

Picksix · 01-12-2013

And let's not forget that Gruden's last team flat quit on him. It was the 2008 season. All the Bucs needed to do to get in the playoffs that year, was win one game in December, with the last two being at home against teams below .500 at the time, and lost all of them. Have friends in Tampa/St. Pete, and they all said his act had gotten old.

supercowboy8 · 01-12-2013

I would rather jerry go and over pay for dungy.
I don't really care for either Dungy or Gruden.
Gruden won due to Kiffin great defense.
Dungy won due to Payton Manning.

I think if we give Romo a OL Murray will give romo a great ground game and get kiffin guys this team will be fine with Garrett.

No matter whos the HC, without a running game, OL, and Kiffin having thw right pieces we arent going to win

dadymat · 01-12-2013

No Gruden love here, I dont want him anywhere around this team

Picksix · 01-12-2013

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Originally Posted by jnday

No, he is a better coach. Anything over 8-8 is an improvement.

Read the OP. In six years following a SB win with a team he didn't build, the team went 45-51, only making the playoffs twice and losing their first game both times. If all we're going by is the fact that he won a SB, then we never should have fired Switzer.