PFT: Jerry trying to get Jason to give up play calling

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

This is what has me confused as well with the "up in arms" crowd. They are getting what they wanted all year long but when it appears that it is happening they fall on the argument that Jerry is undermining Garrett's authority.

yea, it's JONES IS A MEDDLER AND HE SUCKS!

now it's GET IN THERE AND DO SOMETHING!!!!

my head can't spin that fast.

[Reality]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

This is what has me confused as well with the "up in arms" crowd. They are getting what they wanted all year long but when it appears that it is happening they fall on the argument that Jerry is undermining Garrett's authority.

Just like Skip Peete failed his group in the film room, I suspect that John had the same problems with his guys.

On one of the NFL Turning Point episodes there was a scene where Romo was quite upset with Witten on a failed play. Romo was yelling at him because Witten didn't see the same adjustment Romo saw. It seemed like another indicator that film studies were an issue with the TE group. I could go on a separate thread but I just wanted to point out that just because the Garrett's are brothers it doesn't absolve the fact that the offense was out of sync.

Exactly!

/reality

[erod]

Originally Posted by iceberg

yea, it's JONES IS A MEDDLER AND HE SUCKS!

now it's GET IN THERE AND DO SOMETHING!!!!

my head can't spin that fast.

There is a proper way to do this behind the scenes so your coach can be the voice and front man.

How many coordinators get hired like they do here in the league? Remember Garrett before Wade? That was odd, too.

[Reality]

Originally Posted by erod

There is a proper way to do this behind the scenes so your coach can be the voice and front man.

How many coordinators get hired like they do here in the league? Remember Garrett before Wade? That was odd, too.

I can definitely agree with that.

/reality

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by erod

There is a proper way to do this behind the scenes so your coach can be the voice and front man.

How many coordinators get hired like they do here in the league? Remember Garrett before Wade? That was odd, too.

are you behind the scenes or getting your info from a media designed to sway opinions? unless you're behind the scenes and in the office, you have ZERO idea of what is real.

until you make it up based off tabloid trash that fosters around an deeply pre-existing base of people do it to?

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by Joe Realist

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...alling-duties/

HERCULES HERCULES

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Bleu Star

HERCULES HERCULES

MAY BE
COULD BE

they're basically doing nothing more than we're doing in the forums. throwing crap on the wall then twisting things to make it stick.

and ya'll e.a.t.i.t.u.p. with a spoon.

[wileedog]

Originally Posted by Reality

I just don't see the logic that some fans are using in doubting Jerry's ability to manage the football team but they are ready and willing to let him make the most important decision an owner makes for a team as if his football smarts would suddenly elevate to genius.

/reality

Even Snyder managed to hire Shanahan. Its not like hiring Holmgren would be a stroke of genius.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by erod

There is a proper way to do this behind the scenes so your coach can be the voice and front man.

How many coordinators get hired like they do here in the league? Remember Garrett before Wade? That was odd, too.

Dick LeBeau was rehired in 2004 as the DC and Mike Tomlin came on board in 2007.

Do you think Tomlin was given full authority to hire his own staff or Mr. Rooney told him don't mess it up?

Tomlin is probably the best example of a figure head in an organization that was handed everything to him on a platter.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Whoa, this is like an 80s' Soap Opera. When's the next Labor disagreement. Nothing from nothing equals ... uh yeh that...again.

I ain't skeered, gimme' sum of that movie pops carwn Michael Jackson! Got any more of that hair spray we can shoot up in our spines?



Garrett's not going anywhere, he must stay and suffer getting banged by Jones along with the rest of us Corn Hullios.

[HowAboutThemCowboys]

I don't like the Redball/Geezer combo, but I could live with the Chucky/Geezer combo.

[cowboysooner]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

Dick LeBeau was rehired in 2004 as the DC and Mike Tomlin came on board in 2007.

Do you think Tomlin was given full authority to hire his own staff or Mr. Rooney told him don't mess it up?

Tomlin is probably the best example of a figure head in an organization that was handed everything to him on a platter.

The rooneys run every facet of that organization they do it with a bit less media and usually more tact. But Remember last year when they fired Arians because they threw too much and he was too tight with Big Ben Those were not tomlin decisions and they weren't really masked as such.

What I am concerned with is that we go from one year that employs a defense predicated on man corners and great outside backers to a defense that uses zone corners who are good tacklers

Ryan was not aggressive enough this year when we were healthy but he was not our downfall tho he has been painted as such by stretch smiths of the world.

[Bleu Star]

Originally Posted by iceberg

MAY BE
COULD BE

they're basically doing nothing more than we're doing in the forums. throwing crap on the wall then twisting things to make it stick.

and ya'll e.a.t.i.t.u.p. with a spoon.

Yes. It tastes great too. I'm killing it with some fava beans.

[Bluestang]

Originally Posted by cowboysooner

What I am concerned with is that we go from one year that employs a defense predicated on man corners and great outside backers to a defense that uses zone corners who are good tacklers

Ryan was not aggressive enough this year when we were healthy but he was not our downfall tho he has been painted as such by stretch smiths of the world.

Man or zone schemes require good tacklers. Tackling is a basic fundamental of the game.

[DOUBLE WING]

Originally Posted by Bluestang

This is what has me confused as well with the "up in arms" crowd. They are getting what they wanted all year long but when it appears that it is happening they fall on the argument that Jerry is undermining Garrett's authority.

I believe I'm in the crowd you're talking about, so I'll try to explain.

I don't want Jason Garrett to be our Head Coach. However, if he's going to stay in that capacity, it should be under his terms.

It all goes back to the Jerry problem. Jerry has actually found a way to make us feel sympathetic for Garrett. If you don't have faith in Garrett running the team the way he wants to run it, then fire him.