Read Option

[Mr Cowboy]

We should sign the originator of the read option, Vince Young so we can practice against it all through camp. Somehow having Orton as the scout QB running it is not quite the same.

[Yuma Cactus]

Originally Posted by juck

U watch. Manziel runs this offense ridiculously well. He is an accurate arm. And scrambles and runs faster than any of these dudes.

Johnny Football, IMO will be hindered by the same thing I see in R2D2's future......."PAIN"... Clubber Lang voice.

[Dale]

It'll be interesting to see how Manziel is ranked as a pro prospect. Guys like Kaepernick and Newton have that ideal build to take hits. The smaller guys, Vick and RGIII, tend to wear down.

[bkight13]

IMO it's not going anywhere. Most colleges are running some kind of option/spread offense. There just won't be many true pocket passers left. And with that many QBs/RBs around it won't matter as much if they get hurt.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

The 49ers are about to win a Super Bowl running the read option pistol formation offense. This offense is the future of the nfl due to the post snap ability to read defenses that it gives qbs. Impossible to stop

Don't they niners have to GET To the superbowl first?

And if this is the future of the NFL, I'll simply stop watching. It's not entertaining to me. I like pure pocket passers. Not a gimmicky offense that forces defenses to leave average WRs and TE's wide open, inflating the QB's numbers cuz he's able to punt one up to him cuz he's so freakin' open. I want to see a skillful PASSER play on sundays. Not the read option.

[windward]

Originally Posted by Dale

It'll be interesting to see how Manziel is ranked as a pro prospect. Guys like Kaepernick and Newton have that ideal build to take hits. The smaller guys, Vick and RGIII, tend to wear down.

The Niners hit the jackpot, I'm afraid. I remember that we were high on Colin going into the draft but the Niners took him before our selection. Pity.

[Dale]

Originally Posted by windward

The Niners hit the jackpot, I'm afraid. I remember that we were high on Colin going into the draft but the Niners took him before our selection. Pity.

I'm thinking so too. He can really drive the ball down the field with authority. He's also helped save Michael Crabtree's career.

[Hoofbite]

I think it will stick around so long as the QBs running it are capable passers.

That's where the options have failed in the past.

If you can throw without it, I don't see why being able to use it wouldn't add a dimension that to the offense that makes it useful.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

How do defenses adapt to this? And a zone defense being run will give you more Alfred Morris 200 yard 3 TD performances. QBs will hand off over and over and take the easy 5 to 7 yards

Yeah if 7 people on ur defense are either on the IR or playing with 1 arm

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by Hoofbite

I think it will stick around so long as the QBs running it are capable passers.

That's where the options have failed in the past.

If you can throw without it, I don't see why being able to use it wouldn't add a dimension that to the offense that makes it useful.

Hoofbite, you and me have really been on the same page recently.

I agree completely. It creates a wrinkle that did not previously exist to the same degree. There is really no answer to this other than defenses getting smarter and faster.

There is no answer for a quarterback who can run and pass accurately. Simple as that. Teams weren't able to stop Michael Vick from running, but the advantage they had was that he wasn't a capable passer. The upcoming generations of QBs are far more capable.

[bkight13]

Originally Posted by Titleist

Just a fad that will pass after a year or two like the Wildcat. There is no substitute for a pocket passing.

The Wildcat was not a fad, you just have to know the RB/QB is capable of the throwing the ball. The Dolphins used Ronnie Brown and teams quickly learned he wasn't going to throw it. Denver was successful with Tebow, even as a below average passer because he was so hard to tackle. The Wildcat/Pistol eliminates a QB that hands the ball off and then does nothing else. You get an extra blocker by snapping it straight to RB/QB.

[Galian Beast]

The zone defense is better at defending the run, this is a basic common sense principle.

In a zone defense all of the defenders are facing the offense, where as in man defense defenders face specific players. Zone keeps everything in front of you, which is why it is easier to make plays in a zone defense.

The issue with zone defense is a quarterback's ability to find the weaknesses in the zones. Which is why getting pressure in tandem with the zone is ultimately the best option. If we have a dominant defensive line who can get pressure on the quarterback, it limits the weaknesses of a zone defense.

Man defense is great when you have the personnel to play it. Which is why we went out and spent so much on corners. Not that we will never play man defense anymore, but we certainly need to focus more on our pass rush now.

[Zman5]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

The 49ers are about to win a Super Bowl running the read option pistol formation offense. This offense is the future of the nfl due to the post snap ability to read defenses that it gives qbs. Impossible to stop

After RG3 gets his other knee blown out next year, I think teams will think twice running it as their base defense.

If I was a DC, I would tell the players to hit the QB hard as they can when they start running. Give the running QB something to think about.

[ScipioCowboy]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

How do defenses adapt to this? And a zone defense being run will give you more Alfred Morris 200 yard 3 TD performances. QBs will hand off over and over and take the easy 5 to 7 yards

Actually, zone defense is better defending the run. It's man defenses that get gashed by the run.

[VACowboy]

It'll last until QBs start getting concussions and blown knees from running the ball. Matter of time.